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There will likely be armed revolt to scale the government back significantly.

A national sales tax would be the fairest and most beneficial way of taxing and to drastically reduce the size of the central socialist government.

It is impossible for politicians to raise taxes without everyone knowing and politician fearing an angry mob.

1 posted on 08/26/2015 6:48:00 AM PDT by HomerBohn
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This might be a good time for the GOPers to “pick and chose” a “battle” to fight. Time to get off your butts boys!


2 posted on 08/26/2015 6:49:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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> “A national sales tax would be the fairest and most beneficial way of taxing and to drastically reduce the size of the central socialist government.”

Your argument is fatally flawed. You are missing one word that changes the entire meaning and argument:

The word is ...... “RETAIL”

You really need to think before you post.

Here’s your sentence revised so that it doesn’t lead America down the road to Hell:

“A national RETAIL sales tax would be the fairest and most beneficial way of taxing and to drastically reduce the size of the central socialist government.”

And here is the link to the text of the legislation that refers to the National Retail Sales Tax (NRST):

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-113hr25ih/pdf/BILLS-113hr25ih.pdf


3 posted on 08/26/2015 6:56:40 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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The problem with a consumption tax is not that it isn’t superior to an income or wealth tax. The problem is that the current US obsession with “fairness” would likely result in the addition of a consumption tax to the existing income tax, rather than a replacement of the income tax.

If spending isn’t cut, fighting over the most efficient effort of collection is like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.


4 posted on 08/26/2015 6:57:01 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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The VAT is the way the European countries pay for all that Socialism.....and it doesn’t cover it. When I lived in Britain, the VAT was 15%.......on goods, but not food and clothing. It is now 20%. How do you think Americans will feel about every other thing they buy having another 20% tax assessed??


5 posted on 08/26/2015 6:57:19 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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I’d favor a national sales tax if it meant the repealing of most other taxes (income, capital gains etc..).


6 posted on 08/26/2015 7:01:39 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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Sorry, can’t read that long of post this early. What is wrong with a VAT or national sales tax IF it were to replace our income tax? That or a flat tax would be an improvement over our current system.


7 posted on 08/26/2015 7:02:00 AM PDT by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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I fully support a consumption tax BUT only along with the elimination of the federal income tax. Huckabee spelled it out very nicely at the 1st debate only to have that bimbo Kelly make a comment that the debate was getting “X rated.” Trump is absolutely right in calling her a bimbo.

We all know that this would never happen unless Trump is elected and the present congressional leadership is removed.


8 posted on 08/26/2015 7:02:16 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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You have fallen for a common miss representation of the sales tax. There is NOTHING that will limit the size or spending of the government in the national sales tax.


9 posted on 08/26/2015 7:03:48 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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I think introducing a National Sales Tax is a GREAT IDEA ... a VAT... NO... VATS are hidden and can be manipulated - increased without public being fully aware...

A National Sales Tax introduced incrementally dovetailed with the Income Tax being reduced in a like fashion ... to where the National Sales Tax over 5 years replaces the income tax...

But so many would rather be a slave to income taxes than to venture into something news ... wienie public...


10 posted on 08/26/2015 7:05:21 AM PDT by ICCtheWay (1)
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A value added tax is regressive. A retail sales tax is good so long as it REPLACES the current income tax. Ain’t gonna happen under this regime.


13 posted on 08/26/2015 7:10:06 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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They say they want a national sales tax to replace the income tax, but that would not last. It would be in addition to the income tax.


14 posted on 08/26/2015 7:12:08 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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Tariffs are the way to go. The founders knew what they were doing. The plus side to tariffs are that they are voluntary and they also promote domestic industry.


16 posted on 08/26/2015 7:15:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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There it is: All that's needed is approval of two-thirds of the members of each House and a new national sales tax and/or value added tax is imposed on us. And they can increase it, along with increasing the income tax, whenever they get two-thirds of the members to vote for it.

All you need right now is half, so two thirds would be an improvement. Unless you think that a court would rule that a sales tax isn't now explicitly allowed and overturn it and this would change that.

21 posted on 08/26/2015 7:53:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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Taxation without representation...

sounds familiar...somehow...


22 posted on 08/26/2015 7:54:34 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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Mitch the bitch has already stated that there will be no shut down. So a national sales tax is inevitable as long as he is running the Senate.


28 posted on 08/26/2015 8:24:29 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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I wouldn’t trust a national sales tax or VAT tax proposal, because it is too likely to be tacked on in addition to an income tax. They lower income tax rates, get vat or sales tax, and then they have two taxes to administer and end up jacking up both.


29 posted on 08/26/2015 8:28:40 AM PDT by tbw2
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A most regressive tax -- so no wonder "progressives" like it. It keeps the hoi polloi down and keeps their money safely in their hands.
31 posted on 08/26/2015 8:41:54 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Just a PS to the VAT proposal. The first time I visited Britain, I was told to save my receipts for everything I bought to bring home. When I left, I went to a VAT station at Heathrow and claimed back the VAT charges on my gifts. A few weeks later, I received a check for that extra money. Tourists are refunded the VAT......only those living in the country are assessed.


34 posted on 08/26/2015 9:20:00 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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bkmk


35 posted on 08/26/2015 10:40:24 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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I have no problem whatsoever with a NRST ... providing the income tax is scrapped and repealed from the constitution
36 posted on 08/26/2015 10:59:42 AM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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