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All remaining Barnes & Noble locations closing in Queens
queenscourier.com ^ | august 27, 2015 | angela matua

Posted on 08/28/2015 4:39:39 AM PDT by lowbridge

It’s the final chapter for Barnes & Noble in Queens, as the bookstore is shuttering its remaining location in The Bay Terrace shopping center in Bayside.

A representative from Barnes & Noble declined to reveal the official closing date or who is expected to take over the property but did admit that the property owner declined to renew the company’s lease.

“With Bayside, when our lease came back up for renewal the property owner notified us that they chose a tenant who was willing to pay rents far in excess of what we were willing to pay,” said David Deason, vice president of Barnes & Noble development. “The Queens community is extremely important to us and as a result we are aggressively looking at new locations and expect to have a new store there in the future.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: New York
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To: lowbridge
As an author in the past I have depended heavily on B&N. The sad truth is, when a new book comes out, the initial B&N buy determines the fate of almost any title. There are a few exceptions. "A Patriot's History of the US" did well when it came out in 2004, but it would not have gotten anywhere near #1 without Glenn Beck's relentless marketing of it---voluntarily---in 2010. The B&N buy sets the buy for all the indies. Amazon doesn't count, because it just uses "just in time" orders. The trouble with that is, if a book isn't hot immediately, the print run will be small, and books are returned after as little as a month on shelves.

That means most titles can't survive long enough to have a lot of Amazon sales, which means they get remaindered after a while, which means no more royalties.

The market is shifting. Authors who can sell at $.99 or $1.99 and have a big marketing foundation are going to be successful. Otherwise, your name better be O'Reilly or Limbaugh or Hannity or Hillary (yeah, the hag sold over 1m copies of her first book).

21 posted on 08/28/2015 5:34:29 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: lowbridge

My sympathy is pretty low for book store chains that habitually hide books by conservative authors.


22 posted on 08/28/2015 5:34:55 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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To: mountn man

We do shop at Barnes and Noble and my wife has an educator’s discount, so that makes up for a lot of the markup. I try to stay away from bookstores in general, because they are the one place I overspend. Screens cannot compete with the sensory experience of a good read, whether it’s a seventy’s science fiction paperback or a leather-bound heirloom quality classic.

I really love bookstores, though I must admit I prefer used bookstores. I am addicted to the smell and revel with the sense of being surrounded by undiscovered treasures, but, most of all, I simply love not having to read through every book to see if it’s filled with perversion.


23 posted on 08/28/2015 5:42:32 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: lowbridge

How easy it will be for the takeover when there will not be any books to burn. Just hack and delete.


24 posted on 08/28/2015 5:49:42 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: mountn man

I agree.

Some of the B&N stores are bigger than most small-town public libraries. Their size helped them compete with stores like Waldenbooks & Borders (both defunct), but is a liability against Amazon.

Sadly, I think they’ll eventually disappear too.


25 posted on 08/28/2015 5:57:17 AM PDT by rbg81 (is pr)
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To: lowbridge

My guess is the neighborhood is gentrifying and increasing rents pitted against declining sales and margins make it a non-starter from a business perspective.


26 posted on 08/28/2015 6:07:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: grania
Bookstores attract shoppers who are likely to spend money at nearby businesses.

And I've read books I've found on-line at Amazon that no book store would ever carry. Some authors are just as good, if not better than the paper-published authors. I'd have never found them without Amazon.

27 posted on 08/28/2015 6:10:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: LS

yeah, the hag sold over 1m copies of her first book

Are you sure the books sold? I heard that was the # of copies on the initial print run.


28 posted on 08/28/2015 6:11:42 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: IYAS9YAS
How does using different sources for different purposes negate the advantage of their being bookstores?

I'm one of those people who needs to wander, check unlikely topics, hold the book and glance through it to get a feel for it.

I do agree that Amazon has given many authors a place to share their accomplishments with others. For some of us, though? There's nothing like the experience of reading a real paper and print book!

29 posted on 08/28/2015 6:20:52 AM PDT by grania
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To: antidisestablishment

You sound exactly like my son. He’s an avid reader, likes B&N, but REALLY likes the used/half-price book stores. Always has.

Speaking of the smell of bookstores. We grew up with a Bookmobile. To this day, I can remember the smell (of nothing but books!), inside that bus. Comforting and exhilarating, at the same time ;)


30 posted on 08/28/2015 6:31:16 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: mountn man

Right there with you. Before I was married with kids my typical Saturday morning was the gym for a couple hours then the local B&N. I would be there for at least 3 hours. Drinking coffee and browsing. I always bought a couple of books feeling it was uncouth not to.

There’s one left about 10 miles from where I live now. I don’t like taking my kids there though as all they want to do is look at the toys. Not relaxing anymore. I love my local library too but their no coffee and no cell phone rules are annoying...


31 posted on 08/28/2015 6:37:05 AM PDT by strider44
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To: grania

A well-put post.


32 posted on 08/28/2015 6:41:52 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: LS
No, what's happening is that like it or not, people are turning to Amazon for book sales--including e-book editions. E-book readers have become very popular in recent years, especially among aging Baby Boomers, since on an e-book reader you can adjust the font display size to compensate for poor eyesight. Not to mention the fact an Amazon Kindle reader is way lighter than most hardback books.
33 posted on 08/28/2015 6:42:18 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Jane Long

We are probably closer to the same age, though you look much younger than I. ;)

I remember the Bookmobiles as well, and I was on a first-name basis with the librarian way back when many local libraries still bore the Carnegie moniker. She often saved the new releases for me though I was too shy to ever ask.

Quite a different world. Today, I generally escort my children in the monolithic homeless shelters that now bear the name library and try to protect them from the aggressive SJWs who replaced our genteel librarians. It’s weird sometimes how words change over time.


34 posted on 08/28/2015 7:01:10 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: listenhillary

They sold. It’s on Bookscan, which really is hard to “fix.” A Hilleryite would have to go into hundreds and hundreds of stores, buy out their stock, come back after the store reordered, rinse, repeat probably 100 times per store.


35 posted on 08/28/2015 7:08:57 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 1rudeboy

I just ordered college texts from BN College store online. Frustrating process to order books and checkout. In fact I was not sure if my order completed (no confirmation) so I ordered on AMZ. Books arrived in 2 days from AMZ. Three weeks later BN books arrive ! Shocked!


36 posted on 08/28/2015 7:12:52 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: RayChuang88
I completely get that. But that creates a problem in that print runs are NOT dictated "like it or not" by Amazon. They are still dictated at the book convention with that primary order.

Sure, you can still have a hit book that catches on, but if it takes months to build, by then the publisher will have remaindered your book, and even when there is initial demand (say, 500 copies in a week) they aren't going to turn the press back on.

Then there is the matter of advances. Authors who have a good reputation for sales are given advances on their next book; the advance determines the print run; but if the order at the convention doesn't live up to that print run, then the author is held in low regard by the press. I know how this works, having been through it. I had a phenomenally (by industry standards) good selling book---but the publisher, based on their own expectations, printed DOUBLE that number. The publisher considers it a flop, even though it's my second highest selling book ever.

I get your point though on e-books (which still only make up between 10-15% of most book sales). I love e-books because I make about $1 more per e-book than I do hard/paper. But the industry yet isn't driven at all by Amazon. It's still driven by the orders at the convention and B&N is the single largest source of orders.

37 posted on 08/28/2015 7:14:29 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: rbg81

I don’t feel sorry for B&N at all. This is just free market evolution at work.

And remember that B&N didn’t feel sorry for all of the local mom and pop bookstores and newstands destroyed when it was gaining rather than losing market share.


38 posted on 08/28/2015 7:18:50 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: LS
I kind of disagree. I have an iPad Air running the Amazon Kindle app and I have some 50 books--many of them pretty big physically in hardback book form!--stored on them. (That's how I've read two different biographies on Steve Jobs.) And I like the fact I can adjust the font size, especially now at my age.

Also, Amazon has a program to self-publish books in e-book form without the complications of needing to physically do a print run of books. That has actually resulted in many smaller time authors going this way.

The thing that has really drive e-book sales in recent years is the increasing size of cellphone displays. With cellphones now sporting 5 to 6 inch (diagonal) touchscreens, they now become viable e-book readers; I've seen a lot of owners of the Apple iPhone 6+ and Samsung Galaxy Note phablet phones reading e-books.

39 posted on 08/28/2015 7:50:17 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: grania
How does using different sources for different purposes negate the advantage of their being bookstores?

I didn't say that it did. I simply stated that I would have never found the authors I currently enjoy reading without Amazon.

40 posted on 08/28/2015 8:03:40 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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