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To: Fantasywriter

In Black Elk’s rant, I am sure you noticed, as did I, the apparent ignorance of Black Elk concerning many of Trump’s statements.... such as his desire to build our military again, and take care of our Vets first.
I agree with your assessment of his raving over hating Mexicans which was a Media slant that became embedded in some people’s heads as was intended, but was NOT in fact, what Trump said. The identical same thing has happened over his refusing to quote Bible verses at the DEMAND of some so called journalist and so many other misquotes I am becoming disgusted. Stick to your guns. The Trump haters have hit a wall and they don’t like it that they are no longer in charge of people’s votes. Trump has broken the chains.That is a large part of his appeal.


144 posted on 08/30/2015 3:52:29 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

I must take your word for what the other poster said. The repeated references to my not liking Mexicans were right up front, and I literally stopped reading there.

I read all of your post, though. I have seen what you referred to when it comes to both the media and the Trump-haters twisting of his words and misrepresenting his statements. You expect that from the MSM. That is their MO. The things I have read from fellow conservatives have surprised me, though. Here is a patriot, speaking loudly and clearly about a life and death problem the country faces...and for that he is vilified? I really don’t understand it.

Cruz was my first choice. He’s just not passionate enough about restoring the country’s sovereignty, however. The soccer balls and teddy bears were hard for me to take. If the border was totally secure, anchor babies were a thing of the past, and Every Single Day saw a mass deportation of the worst of the foreign invader rapists, murderers, child molesters, etc., then we could shift focus. Unless and until those things happen, the rest is beside the point.


153 posted on 08/30/2015 4:08:39 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Mollypitcher1
I know a lot of pro-military folks and some MAY support Trump but I have yet to hear anyone say they support him for his detailed plans to rebuild our military strength and that is because he has expressed no such plans.

Candidates just love to be for motherhood (at least GOP candidates) and the flag (ditto) and apple pie and hot dogs and Chevrolet and patriotism (ditto), national defense second to none (megadittoes) and religion (megadittos), all without particulars that can come back to haunt them after they have sold us the snake oil, achieved office and want to screw us over because they imagine they know better than we ever could.

Perhaps you can cure what you imagine to be my "ignorance" by telling me, among other issue specifics, Trump's SPECIFIC plans for taking SCOTUS and fedcourts back for Western Civilization, turning BATF into a toothless convenience store, bringing us back to a Reagan level 600 ship Navy, saving Social Security and Medicare, cutting the taxes of ordinary Americans for a change rather than Wall Street zillionaires, or just what he will DO to improve a Veteran's Department in desperate need of improvement. It just will not suffice for him to say he will do better than the communist in the White Mosque. Nor to claim he will be better than whatever boogieman the Demonrat crime conspiracy chooses to nominate. That was not good enough for Willard and it won't be good enough for anyone else.

The only votes I have ever been in charge of have been my own, no less and no more than you control your own vote. They call it democracy or a democratic republic.

In my distant youth, I took up a dating relationship with a young woman somewhat younger than I. I asked her if she regarded herself as "liberated." She replied immediately that she did not have to be liberated since she had never been captured in the first place.

We exist in Western Civilization. I do not quite share the passionate commitment of fundamentalist Evangelicals and Pentecostals to pour over Scripture again and again but I do recognize that anyone seeking the job of POTUS is seeking to lead Western Civilization and darn well ought to be familiar with substantial amounts of Scripture. Trump seems to think that it is enough to say that he is a sort of Presbyterian and, according to you, blows off any attempt to learn what that means to him.

No questions, not even our southern border immigration, have greater implications for our society and its future than whether those governing us believe in God, sin, virtue, heaven and hell. For the alternative see Hitler's Germany, Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist USSR and Red China, Ho Chi Minh's North Vietnam, the North Korea of the three Kims, the Cambodia of Pol Pot. America is increasingly secular because religious matters make the lowinfos's heads explode with a complexity they just cannot handle.

If demanding the specifics of Trump's or any other candidate's policy proposals makes me a "hater," I've got news for you. Our nation depends on informed voters. It ill behooves you or anyone else to demand of voters the ignorance of which you imagine you are accusing me.

I know, I know, all this talk of actual issues is just soooooo confusing that it may make your head hurt. Why can't you just elect the Rump today before he gets tripped up by all those, those, those conservatives. All they want is some boringly complex old public policy when you want emotional satisfaction and you want it NOW!

Those who oppose Trump for his lowbrow and low info campaign have not hit any walls. No votes have been counted. No delegates chosen. No electoral votes determined. Fifteen months to an election is an eternity in politics. We could not prevent Romney from BUYING the 2012 nomination but we did make Romney hit his wall and unless The Donald improves his specificity and his politeness we can help him to the same fate before (if possible) or after (if necessary) the GOP convention.

Those who yearn for a Trump presidency because it would FEEEEEEL sooooooo gooooood should bear in mind that you would be wiser to convert his skeptics than to attack us. Romney never got that message until election day.

172 posted on 08/30/2015 5:11:52 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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