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The Mystery of Missing Talus
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Sept. 2015 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 08/31/2015 8:33:00 AM PDT by fishtank

The Mystery of Missing Talus

by Brian Thomas, M.S. *

Evidence for Creation

In August 2013 while on a week-long boat tour of Grand Canyon’s Colorado River, I got a close-up view of secular geology’s missing-talus problem. As our crew boarded the boats at Lee’s Ferry, our geologist guide Dr. Steve Austin explained how missing talus challenges the millions-of-years version of Earth history. Everyday weathering processes weaken the cliff face within view of Lee’s Ferry until the cliffs’ rocks tumble down. But only a handful of boulders lie on the canyon floor—not enough if millions of years of erosion have taken place. Since my visit there, I have seen more examples of the missing-talus mystery.

The rocks that a given cliff face sheds form an angled rock pile called a talus slope. The angle of these slopes—called the angle of repose—depends on the size of the talus material. For example, rocks one foot in diameter form a 35-degree slope.1 Unless a historic flood carries away a talus slope, it would eventually reach the very top of the cliff face.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; flood; talus
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1 posted on 08/31/2015 8:33:00 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank
tardis photo: Tardis wasteland2a.jpg

It's a time machine, it moves to different places and time.

2 posted on 08/31/2015 8:39:15 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
That's a Tardis, not a Talus...

This is a Talus:


3 posted on 08/31/2015 8:43:05 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: fishtank

I’ve also heard that the Grand Canyon was formed very quickly when a debris dam somewhere in what is now MT formed and filled with melting water at the end of the Ice Age. When that dam broke, a gazillion gallons of water rush out and very quickly cut what is now the Grand Canyon. If true, there would be no talus accumulation at the bottom. As least it’s as consistent as the theory posed here.


4 posted on 08/31/2015 8:44:40 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Snickering Hound

It’s a time machine, it moves to different places and time.

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I’ve got one of those. I’ll meet you here last Thursday.


5 posted on 08/31/2015 8:44:52 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Hillary not only brings old baggage wherever she goes, she picks up new baggage when she gets there)
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To: Snickering Hound

When I was cleaning out my garage this weekend I ran across a picture of my former Mother-In-Law. She had a missing talus stuck in her ear and 3 more in her butt. She also looked like a loose talus because they are really, really UGLY.

I took the picture along with those missing taluses and placed them gently into the garbage can so millions (excuse me, hundreds) of years later talus hunters could find her and make her look young again.

I’ll be happy knowing that she went from 95 to 5 when the talus tappers determine her age.


6 posted on 08/31/2015 8:49:51 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: rjsimmon
ta·lus ˈtāləs noun noun: talus a sloping mass of rock fragments at the foot of a cliff.
7 posted on 08/31/2015 8:49:57 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: fishtank

8 posted on 08/31/2015 8:50:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I would have Perry Mason and Paul Drake look into it.


9 posted on 08/31/2015 8:52:36 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: fishtank

Mt Saint Helens was an example of very fast creation of a massive canyon: http://www.icr.org/research/index/researchp_sa_r04/


10 posted on 08/31/2015 8:54:33 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: afsnco

I understand what talus means. I was bantying with SnickeringHound.


11 posted on 08/31/2015 8:59:19 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: BenLurkin; Snickering Hound; Graybeard58

They are not missing. They are just preventing you from seeing THEM!............

12 posted on 08/31/2015 11:20:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: rjsimmon

Don’t be a heel, just because the author never heard of glaciers!


13 posted on 08/31/2015 11:33:57 AM PDT by null and void (Send them all back!)
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To: Graybeard58
I’ve got one of those. I’ll meet you here last Thursday.

Sorry, but "here" has been moved to "then". Thursday is over "there", next to "Third Base". (the GPS function of the Tardis has been transposed with the ClockCalendar. Fluctuations in the Ether interjected Abbot & Costello)

"I've gone off to "find myself". If I should return before I get back, please keep me here until I come home."

14 posted on 08/31/2015 11:44:02 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("When the left wins, they're in power; when the right wins, they're in office." - Mark Steyn)
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To: econjack

The missing talus in those canyons is due to advancing glaciers during the ice age. These glaciers pushed the talus ahead of the glacier as it moved through the canyon and eventually left those tumble-rounded boulders hundreds of miles away when the glacier melted at the end of the last ice age.

Yes, you’ll find that talus hundreds of miles away as curiously rounded boulders in the middle of a desert or plain and you’ll wonder how in the world they ever got there.


15 posted on 08/31/2015 11:58:54 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

According to Ancient Alien Theorists it was The Flood that deposited them there.


16 posted on 08/31/2015 12:34:43 PM PDT by null and void (Send them all back!)
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To: fishtank

That ICR article has to rate as one of the stupidest of their stupid articles. Every one of their examples of an alleged mystery talus slope is actually an obvious example of riverine, glacial, and/or marine erosion of the talus. There is no excuse for such obvious dishonesty on their part.


17 posted on 08/31/2015 2:46:04 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Graybeard58

Where were you?


18 posted on 08/31/2015 3:52:50 PM PDT by ShasheMac (www.needGod.com)
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To: econjack
"a gazillion gallons of water rush out and very quickly cut what is now the Grand Canyon."

The Canyon Lake dam, near Canyon City, Texas, overflowed its spillway for several days in 2002, cutting a large gorge beside the dam. People can take tours of this gorge, and the cut made through bedrock. During the tour, the guide tells that studies of this gorge reinforce the thought that the Grand Canyon was cut quickly by flow from a glacial lake giving way. See: Canyon Gorge

19 posted on 08/31/2015 5:05:41 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: norwaypinesavage

It wasn’t just glacial lakes which dammed the Colorado River. Volcanic ash and magma also dammed the river and then collapsed to release the lakes behind those natural dams.


20 posted on 08/31/2015 10:36:58 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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