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To: Ransomed
has to realize that the state’s definition has always been mutable.

Oh. You mean at some point in time it constituted a different arrangement other than a man and a woman? Well I didn't know that. Well of course, if the state's definition has ever included dogs, bugs, plant life and rocks as part of "marriage", then they have no moral or legal leg to stand on by refusing a couple or even a dozen faggots the state certificate of marriage.

439 posted on 09/03/2015 11:57:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

The point is the state’s definition in the modern era is simply whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority think it is at any one time. That’s all it can ever be to the state, the state doesn’t have any other way to define it. It can get it right or it can get it wrong, but right or wrong that’s the state’s version. Pope Leo XIII warned about this 130 years ago in Arcanum.

As far as plants, rocks, or bugs getting married—if you can get judges, pols, or the voting majority to accept it then all that would be fine to the state. To many, the state hasn’t had a moral leg to stand on concerning marriage for centuries, for many more since no fault divorce.

Freegards


466 posted on 09/03/2015 12:07:00 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: DiogenesLamp
The closest example I can think of is interracial marriage, but even that was between a man and a woman.

-PJ

467 posted on 09/03/2015 12:07:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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