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Carly Fiorina Says Kentucky Clerk Should Issue Gay Marriage Licenses or Resign [Cruz,Paul disagree]
The Christian Post ^ | 9/3/15 | Ray Nothstine

Posted on 09/03/2015 2:18:48 PM PDT by z taxman

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To: Lera

You are right; and I stand with you.


81 posted on 09/04/2015 9:21:10 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Are you going to stand up for the rights of a Muslim county clerk...?”

And what about you, Alberta’s Child?

Are you going to stand up for some lawyers to make up fake rights out of whole cloth while exceeding all authority to do so? Are you going to stand up for mindless “law” over morality, judgment and common law?

Look, one doesn’t have to like *how* this lady is handling her personal situation. But one ought to respect the fact she is trying to DO something that is lawful in Kentucky about an unlawful (and immoral!) dictate from the higher court.

“The stay request offers several options such as removing Davis’s name from the marriage license, thus removing the personal nature of the authorization,” Staver pointed out. “Another accommodation would be to allow licenses to be issued by the chief executive of Rowan County or developing a statewide, online marriage license process,” Staver suggested. “There is absolutely no reason that this case has gone so far without reasonable people respecting and accommodating Kim Davis’s First Amendment rights,” Staver concluded.


82 posted on 09/04/2015 9:36:35 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m partly leaning towards agreeing with you that perhaps government ought not to be involved in marriage licenses, BUT you do realize that in practical terms that there would still be divorce lawsuits and related legal matters put before the courts, right?

(And that assumes the liberal and LGBTABCDEFG movements would let matters proceed without causing as much heartache and mischief as possible.)

Me, I’m guessing if we don’t fight this tooth-and-nail, that the Left may well succeed in destroying societal norms and viciously savage the youth even more than today.

But I’m willing to be persuaded: how do you see with working on a practical level, recognizing that not everyone operates on Christian principles?


83 posted on 09/04/2015 9:53:12 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: Alberta's Child

Is this really how your mother taught you to speak, Alberta’s Child?

James 1
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.


84 posted on 09/04/2015 9:55:58 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: mbj
I have no qualms about the way she's handling her situation. That's all up to her. And I would not stand up for the rights of a Muslim county clerk who took that kind of stand, either.

Let's be brutally honest, though ... at the end of the day this is all just a circus. Even Davis' own lawyer is proposing a whole bunch of options that would allow his client to extricate herself from the marriage licensing process but wouldn't do anything to stop it from moving forward. This does nothing to alter the reality of what is going on here. The real issue at hand is not -- and never should have been -- a question of whether Kim Davis should be allowed to keep her job while refraining from taking part in any "same-sex marriage" formalities. The real issue is whether the State has any moral or legal ground to stand on when it licenses these things in the first place.

85 posted on 09/05/2015 8:29:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: mbj
Me, I’m guessing if we don’t fight this tooth-and-nail, that the Left may well succeed in destroying societal norms and viciously savage the youth even more than today.

What is there to fight? There really is no battle here, because the heart of the issue is not state recognition of "gay marriage" at all. Two males can get "married" under the law even if they are nothing more than drinking buddies who want to file joint tax returns and get a family medical insurance plan. And (sorry to be crude) two other males can sodomize each other all the live-long day without ever getting "married" under the law. Which of these two cases is more destructive from a social and moral standpoint?

But I’m willing to be persuaded: how do you see with working on a practical level, recognizing that not everyone operates on Christian principles?

That's the whole point. It's not going to work. What you're witnessing is a complete breakdown of all social norms, which reflects the silly delusions we've had for years about multi-cultural, secular governance.

You're watching something of historic proportions unfold here. You're witnessing the Tower of Babel version 2.0.

86 posted on 09/05/2015 8:35:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: mbj

It’s the Irish in me, I guess. Read up on John Hughes of New York City, who was the Archbishop of New York from 1842 to 1864. His legacy includes the establishment of Fordham University and St. Patrick’s Cathedral. He was known as “Dagger John” because of his abrasive personality. Sometimes you gotta be like that to get things done, eh? :-)


87 posted on 09/05/2015 8:39:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: z taxman
Fiorina ran off U.S. Workers and replaced them with H1B workers at HP.

She is un-electable just for that. The Democrats are saving that one to savage her with if she even gets close to or gets the nomination, or becomes a running mate.

88 posted on 09/06/2015 9:59:34 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Alberta's Child
I agree with that statement.

Get the state out of the marriage business.

89 posted on 09/06/2015 10:02:16 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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