Posted on 09/14/2015 6:40:12 AM PDT by Petrosius
All told, among registered voters, 33 percent of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents now favor Trump for the nomination, with 20 percent for Carson – up 9 and 14 percentage points, respectively, since July. Jeb Bush has crumpled to 8 percent, down from a field-leading 21 percent in March and his first single-digit result in ABC/Post polls this cycle. Among others, Scott Walker’s tumbled to 2 percent, down 11 points since midsummer.
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I wonder if Carson’s polling will drop after he came out with his immigration reform plan. Amnesty?
I also wonder if after the “debate” on Wednesday, the MSM & the GOPe will start cooking the polls to make Jeb and or Christy look better.
I think this is the way to get to Trump by stuffing the Carson campaign poll numbers...
They did it with Jebby, only problem was, Jebby isn’t solid enough to take the heat...
Carson isn’t either, and when the GOPee get thru with Carson, they’ll start on someone else...they will keep trying, because they think this election is in their hands, what they don’t understand or don’t want to understand is it is OUR campaign and they have nothing to do with it...or they don’t want to realize and admit that the VOTERS this time are running this show....
I would be amazed if Ben Carson (the "surging surgeon") can maintain those polling numbers. My theory is that many would-be Trump voters are parked with Carson for the time being.
I’m not so sure. Where are the usual GOPe/RINO voters in the poll? It almost looks like they’re getting friskie themselves, saying at this point that they back Carson—the “nice” Trump.
Poor Karl Rove was choking on these numbers this AM on Fox. It coffee spewing fun to watch him try to dance around what is painfully obvious, that his boy, Bush, has blown it big time.
The pundits are ready to gush about Carson’s debate performance. Right now, they see a “protest/anti-Establishment” lane in the primaries, and hoping that their bought and paid for property, Dr. Ben Carson, can somehow beat out Trump with that positioning.
“Bush crumbles”
Tis a good Monday.
My personal feelings are that Carson is a bit of a cypher right now. People ascribe to him what they want an outsider politician to be. They see in him whatever it is they define as the “perfect” candidate.
We’ve seen this in the past with other candidates who have come out of nowhere to challenge the front runners. Last cycle we had Perry, Cain, and Santorum. In 2008, Mike Huckabee was a similar candidate.
If that is true, then he will probably alienate 1/3 of his support no matter what position he takes on any issue. The deflation of his numbers will start when he starts to get enough press coverage to define where he stands to a large audience.
“Just amazing how the establishment candidates have been kept in single digits by two candidates who have never before held political office”.
With one of them doing absolutely nothing to rise in the polls. One that had about 3 minutes in the first debate and said nothing of note except a joke about about politicians needing brain surgery. Now with the amnesty plan that’s more democrat than republican will Apostle Ben continue to rise.
And Bush has blown it big time, hasn’t he?
He’s turned out to be a terrible candidate with a terrible campaign. And there really isn’t more to say to it than that.
His only hope right now is a repeat of what happened with McCain in 2008: bottom out early and try to vault ahead when the rest of the field starts slowing down.
I got a kick out of Rove this morning reminding us that on this very exact day four years ago Rick Perry was leading the field. I wonder if Rove thinks that Bush who led the field in March and is now in single digits can recover to lead the field again. Has it ever happened before? Doubt it.
That's my feeling, too. Once they've left the establishment sellouts, they're (we're) not going back.
The opinion I've been expressing about Dr. Carson is that he's reminding me a bit of Alan Keyes. Keyes had his one issue, but when you scratched the surface, he wasn't all that conservative or presidential.
As far as Carly "the outsider" goes: Maybe she'll appeal to the Republican women who are Republican because their husbands are. Real Constitutional Conservative women tend to favor Alpha males, that's my personal experience and the feeling I get on FR. Carley might appeal to FemNazis, but they're mostly not Republican. Besides that, it's in the DNA for women to like "can-do" successful men, and Trump gets that vote.
What is disgusting is the elite are keeping their Jeb game going, knowing damn well grass root Republicans can't stand him. They still have a strategy to cobble together a nomination, so it seems. If they do that, they'll never get the election unless the dems also have someone no one can stand.
So, yeah, thinking as I type, if it's even 10% fair, Trump so it seems is pretty close to having the nomination sewn up.
Next step?.....WATCH OUT if they start promoting Kasich as a compromise candidate or a VP possibility with Jeb.
Carson got a bounce from the first debate (understandable) and then got another 6-7% a couple of weeks later for no reason at all. They’re already cooking the polls.
Carson is the GOPe hit man. If you look at his position on immigration, it is almost the same as Bush and Rubio and Fiorina. .
No kidding. I do not understand this 2nd place polling position of Carson at all.
Well, this Constitutional Conservative woman favors anyone, male or female, who would uphold the law as written. It's just that Carly Fiorina doesn't qualify in that regard.
There are some very disturbing things about Carson that cause me to oppose him:
1) He’s recently come out in favor of one version of amnesty or another. That’s a killer right there.
2) He’s buying in to at least some of the worst premises of the Black Lives Mater terrorist movement. For example, he said he thought George Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter and that officer Daren Wilson could have avoided killing Michael Brown when, in fact, there was no alternative.
3) I fundamentally doubt his commitment to preserving the Second Amendment.
4) I’ve not heard him denounce the Iran abomination.
I saw the gay commentator on Fox News the other night saying the only candidates he thought would be good on “foreign policy” were Bush, Rubio, Kasich and Fiorina.
Obviously he really meant they’d be good on gay issues. But it’s important to keep those 4 candidates categorized in the RINO camp. Keep in mind these are also 4 candidates who balked loudly at the idea of getting rid of birthright citizenship for illegals.
The rise of Carson is a big problem for Trump and Trump knows it. With the big publicity of Trump, people shouldn’t be looking for an alternative “cypher” already. It suggests these people don’t find Trump acceptable. Trump has had a hard time finding a line of attack on Carson that works.
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