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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
"Libertarianism is about as similar to conservatism as satanism is to Christianity."

Silly. Once can be both libertarian and conservative. All it takes is the recognition that everything you disapprove of does not have to be illegal. That people can be free to be bad people.

4 posted on 09/14/2015 9:16:10 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
Silly. Once can be both libertarian and conservative.

False. Just. False.

Conservatives embrace social and moral values and traits that libs deny and denounce.

You cannot be a libertarian and a conservative.

5 posted on 09/14/2015 9:19:03 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: mlo

Libertarianism would work if everyone was born 30 years old with a developed adult brain. So it can’t work.


6 posted on 09/14/2015 9:19:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mlo
One can be both libertarian and conservative.

Well, sure. Someone once asked martial artist Bruce Lee what his fighting style was (karate, kung-fu, or what?). Lee replied along the lines of, "I take the best from each style."

I'm thinking the same applies to politics.

9 posted on 09/14/2015 9:22:06 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: mlo

Conservatives will never abandon the Nanny State.


14 posted on 09/14/2015 9:30:22 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: mlo

Think there are more intelligent approaches than “People are free to be evil.

A true conservative realizes that people should not be free to do evil however, there are evils which are at different times and circumstances are allowed , but which will be as regulated as need be to reduce the social harm they cause.

Your phrase allows people to do drugs do “gay marriage” etc. Because freedom without hardly any rules is Libertarianism’s true ideal.


15 posted on 09/14/2015 9:31:50 AM PDT by amihow
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To: mlo

Not true. Even the Greek Masters knew that without Virtue, Freedom is impossible.

All the Founders knew that without Virtue, our Republic would collapse.

That is what the Cultural Marxists targeted in curricula with our public schools—to literally destroy Virtue formation in children by removing Classical Education and putting in neo-marxist/Freudian literature.

Destroy Virtue in children (which needs to be instilled and habituated) and you will collapse civil society. MSM promoting and glorifying vice 24/7, and using Laws in the 60s to ban our Christian culture from the public square, so that our Traditions and and heritage could not be transmitted to the next generation, sealed our need for “Outer Control “ (prisons/JD centers/abortion centers-—etc—a massive expensive system to stem vice which enslaves the producers/good who have no time or “mother” to instill virtue in their own children.

Without inner control of base instincts, you have to have government step in——it has been so since the beginning of man-—total chaos than totalitarianism.

Freedom can never consist of a Vice System of “Justice”-—Just Laws have to promote ONLY “public virtue” and NEVER vice-—to remain a “Just Law”. That is the basis of our “Justice System”-—”When Just Law ceases to be Just (virtuous), it ceases to be Law”. It has been understood since before Cicero to be such.

When you promote Vice in “law” (which can never be “Just”), you get more vice-—until it collapses civil society. Unjust Law is “null and void”—and is the Duty of all people to disobey evil laws-—and judges to declare “null and void”. Nuremberg Trials reiterated this Truth.


19 posted on 09/14/2015 9:38:15 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: mlo
Once can be both libertarian and conservative.

I reckon anyone on the northeast axis qualifies

43 posted on 09/15/2015 7:45:18 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Malcom Turnbull wants power too much to do the honorable thing)
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