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Cruz is positioned well even in midst of Trump frenzy
DallasNews ^ | 9/14/15 | Grommer Jeffers

Posted on 09/14/2015 8:43:02 PM PDT by VinL

Donald Trump is the ultimate wild card...There is one candidate, however, who is nicely positioned.

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas has also watched Trump eat at his poll numbers but has remained in the upper tier of the contests. He has the money and following to be relevant throughout the Republican race.

Of 15 candidates in the field not named Trump, Cruz is the contender most likely to share supporters with Trump, or woo them later.

Yes, Carson is an outsider and Cruz is a member of the Senate in an anti-politician environment. But Cruz has solid anti-establishment credentials. Just ask his colleagues who blamed him for the 2013 government shutdown related to the failed effort to kill funding for the Affordable Care Act.

Though Cruz is a senator, his style is more like an activist. He refuses to compromise.

Cruz has another advantage over his rivals.

If he can be competitive in the early contests, which offer few delegates, he’ll have a big score waiting for him on March 1. With Perry out of the race, Cruz has a nearly unobstructed path to the 155 delegates at stake in the Texas primary.

Trump, with his name recognition, could create problems, particularly if he’s coming out of South Carolina like a house on fire. But it’s likely that Cruz, the most popular Republican in Texas, will rout the competition.

A win in Texas and other Super Tuesday elections would give Cruz momentum, making him a front-runner or the alternative to Trump.

No matter what happens with Trump, Cruz is prepared for the long haul.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; newyork; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: snarkybob
Trump has the high poll numbers because he appeals to more than just the base.

Not true, not in the general election polls. You'll see even Bush poll better than Trump in the general election matchups.

Trump is underwater and has near 100% name ID; considerably more don't like him than do; and pretty much everyone knows him. Cruz, on the other hand, has room to grow.

41 posted on 09/14/2015 9:50:15 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: snarkybob

You aren’t bright enough to see the point I was making. Think about it.


42 posted on 09/14/2015 9:53:47 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: EDINVA

“I doubt Cruz will get the Reagan Democrats. IMO, if Trump gets out of the race, they’ll go hunting or fishing. Just not show up at the polls. All the wishful thinking in the world won’t get them to the polls for Cruz or anyone else.”

But what if that’s what I really really really really want to happen. Then it will right?
Then Purple and lite Blue state conservative Democrats will vote for a deep Red state conservative who is labeled extreme by his own party but supports H-1B visas and voted for Obamatrade.


43 posted on 09/14/2015 9:55:52 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Oklahoma

“You aren’t bright enough to see the point I was making. Think about it.”

Of course I’m not. Haha
Cruz won’t win a single state that Mitt lost.
He’ll make the Red states more Red but he’ll get steamrolled in swing states.

I live in Texas where even most of the Democrats are pretty conservative and Ted would carry Texas no problem. He’d also carry all the other solid Red states with more votes than Mitt or McCain, but he wouldn’t carry a single state that wasn’t already Red.
Making Red states more Red isn’t going to put Ted over the top.


44 posted on 09/14/2015 10:00:09 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: D-fendr

“Not true, not in the general election polls. You’ll see even Bush poll better than Trump in the general election matchups.
Trump is underwater and has near 100% name ID; considerably more don’t like him than do; and pretty much everyone knows him. Cruz, on the other hand, has room to grow.”

In the general election you are correct. It’s going to be an uphill climb for whichever candidate get’s the nomination against whoever the Dems put up.

At the moment Trump is drawing support across all demographics. He’s leading the field in Red and Blue states, not so for the rest of the field.


45 posted on 09/14/2015 10:03:53 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob
It’s going to be an uphill climb for whichever candidate get’s the nomination against whoever the Dems put up.

My point was it's going to be harder for Trump than the others.

You look at how well a candidate is known and whether those who know him like him. The worst situation is very well known/not well liked. That's where Trump is.

If one of your criteria is electability... Trump's score is very low.

Thanks for your reply.

46 posted on 09/14/2015 10:08:41 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: snarkybob

Trump has the high poll numbers because he appeals to
more than just the base.


True Trump could get more democrat votes than republican ones..
Because he really is a democrat.. has democrat smell all over him..

BUT Trump may easily lose the republican primary’s..
Then be forced to go “indy”..

WHich was brought out right from the beginning of Trump declaring to run as republican..

Because he is not tested, proved or even confirmed as a republican..
Let alone being a conservative.. but it’s true RINOS are drawn to him..

A RINO President would much like a MYTH Romney..
Meaning Jeb Bush on steroids.. crack..


47 posted on 09/14/2015 10:09:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: snarkybob

How many Blue states that Obama won would (Hillary | Bernie | Joe) lose with weak turnout? It wouldn’t take many. Will the Obama turnout machine work with Obama’s record, but not Obama, heading the ticket? Those few, but important, Democrats with brains are concerned.


48 posted on 09/14/2015 10:11:12 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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To: VinL

Cruz is OWNED by special interests, especially the Club for Growth (Koch Brothers) and Goldman Sachs.

Combine that with voting for Obama’s TPA as well as the Corker Bill. 5 fold increase in H1-B visas?

Amnesty express.

DEEDS, NOT WORDS.

Many here call Trump a fake. Wake up. Cruz is.


49 posted on 09/14/2015 10:12:58 PM PDT by datura
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To: D-fendr

“You look at how well a candidate is known and whether those who know him like him. The worst situation is very well known/not well liked. That’s where Trump is.
If one of your criteria is electability... Trump’s score is very low.”

Well Trump is leading and I think if the Dems nominate Clinton or Sanders, which looks pretty likely, Trump will win. His negatives will be offset by Hillarys own negatives because even the rank & file Dems don’t really like her.
Sanders is an admitted Socialist. He may win the coasts but that’s all.
Cruz, Jindahl, Santorum won’t take any but the already committed Red states.
JMHO but Carson will Flame out pretty fast. Walker seems to have already flamed out but no dirt has been thrown on him yet so he may bounce back.


50 posted on 09/14/2015 10:14:11 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: datura

Right... I’ll make a note of that.


51 posted on 09/14/2015 10:16:49 PM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: snarkybob
"Ted won’t carry very many moderates and zero Reagan democrats."

Sad but true.

52 posted on 09/14/2015 10:17:07 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: snarkybob

Sorry, but you’re information is misleading.

Hillary is tanking but Trump leads Hillary less than or equal to even Bush or Carson - and still not over 50%. Trump’s negatives are evn higher than Hillary’s.

Trump can’t get past 50 nationally with his negatives near 60%.

He’s leading GOP primary candidates, but he’s at his peak there. Certainly not anywhere near a win against a Dem in the general.

Again, my original point was that other candidates have some room to improve, because they’re not very well known. Trump is very well known, folks know him and either like or don’t like. Many more don’t.


53 posted on 09/14/2015 10:19:45 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RginTN

And George Will explained today how his insider info says Walker will win Iowa.

No, really, stop laughing, he did.


54 posted on 09/14/2015 10:21:04 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: hosepipe

“Because he is not tested, proved or even confirmed as a republican..
Let alone being a conservative.. but it’s true RINOS are drawn to him..
A RINO President would much like a MYTH Romney..
Meaning Jeb Bush on steroids.. crack..”

You’re probably right.
I certainly don’t think Trump is what passes for a conservative on FR.
I also don’t think any of the candidates that FR considers legitimate conservatives have a snowballs chance in hell.
I think Trump hasn’t changed his position on abortion or same sex marriage or even Obamacare, but those issues haven’t moved anyway and IMHO Trump will do something about immigration which for me is the only issue this election.

Abortion, same sex marriage, and obamacare aren’t going anywhere for now so close the border and then fight those other fights later.
That’s my position. I think Trump will close the border and after that’s done then take up the other issues.


55 posted on 09/14/2015 10:21:10 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: JohnBovenmyer

“How many Blue states that Obama won would (Hillary | Bernie | Joe) lose with weak turnout? It wouldn’t take many. Will the Obama turnout machine work with Obama’s record, but not Obama, heading the ticket? Those few, but important, Democrats with brains are concerned.”

I can’t speak to Sanders turnout but Hillary will get the turnout.
First woman president and let’s be honest it’s not like the GOP has set the world on fire since they took both chambers of congress.
They’ve mostly tried to take both sides of every possible issue.
Moderates and Indies tend to notice things like that.


56 posted on 09/14/2015 10:23:39 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: Catsrus

Brat had 1/10th of Cantor’s financial resources.


57 posted on 09/14/2015 10:24:56 PM PDT by karnage
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To: D-fendr

“Again, my original point was that other candidates have some room to improve, because they’re not very well known. Trump is very well known, folks know him and either like or don’t like. Many more don’t.”

OK when Ted gets the nomination we’ll see how well he runs in 2016.


58 posted on 09/14/2015 10:25:15 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob

True alien insurgency is the Elephant in the room..

To be selected at the republican primarys..
MORE than that is expected and needed...

In the general election insurgency is BOSS..
Even democrats will vote on that.. screw the party..


59 posted on 09/14/2015 10:27:08 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: snarkybob

Cruz can win Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, and Virginia.

Colorado: limited government, tough on immigration plays well here. Having a Cuban father will help with the legal immigrants.

New Mexico: tougher sell, but conceivable if he’s running against big city socialists.

Iowa: the evangelical vote will be huge here.

Virginia: Virginians who live in the deep-blue shadows of DC are fed up with illegal immigrant violence from gangs like MS-13. If he is only down by 10 points in Northern VA then he can carry the rest of the state.


60 posted on 09/14/2015 10:28:18 PM PDT by brothers4thID (I owe my life to the brave passengers of Flight 93. Let's Roll.)
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