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Polls: Fiorina even with Trump in presidential race at 22% among debate watchers
HotAir ^ | 09/17/2015 | Jeremy (Allahpundit)

Posted on 09/17/2015 1:38:54 PM PDT by ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Even so, if I’m not mistaken, these are the first two polls anywhere since Trumpmania broke big that don’t show him on top.


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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Sounds about right for now.
The media is pushing for her harder than for Hillary.


41 posted on 09/17/2015 2:04:31 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: JudyinCanada

Indeed, Neil is ultimately another GOPe mouthpiece.....


42 posted on 09/17/2015 2:04:50 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

She’s pro-life, and therefore completely unelectable in today’s environment. She’s being used at this point (perhaps unwittingly) try and make Trump give up. Once he does, if he does, the GOP and their pals at the DNC and in the MSM will have her laughed out of town, never to be heard from again.


43 posted on 09/17/2015 2:05:42 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: nickcarraway
Why didn't he say she was the ugliest woman he's ever seen and start making barking noises?

I don't even support Trump, but he got it right. He says you're beautiful, in a patronizing way that no one believes, and the question now becomes her face. If you try to make it about Trump, you have to divine intent, and he was at least trying to use polite language. But is it patronizing and obviously unbelieveable because she ISN'T beautiful? In any even, it's now okay to say she has an ugly persona.

Oh, as far as women being judged more by their appearences? Absolutely, and other women are THE enforcers.
44 posted on 09/17/2015 2:06:36 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Bump
To Read Later


45 posted on 09/17/2015 2:07:44 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

After the face” comment couldn’t take my eyes if her face. Never a smile. Lots of angry/mean looks. Wish someone could make. Collage of those looks so people would see what DT was talking about

He didn’t dare explain himself or her debate couch would have her adding facial gestures to the hand jive she uses


46 posted on 09/17/2015 2:10:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Read my lips: no more Bushes)
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To: nickcarraway
Why didn't he say she was the ugliest woman he's ever seen and start making barking noises? Or why didn't he have dogs released into the audience with Fiorina name tags?


47 posted on 09/17/2015 2:11:47 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: hoosiermama

It’s hard to move your face with all that Botox in it.


48 posted on 09/17/2015 2:13:01 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: bert

Oh sure, sure, they’re totally conservative.

Except when they want to rant in favor of gay marriage, or talk about how crazy we are to oppose amnesty, or waggle their finger at people to dare to use their freedom of speech to criticize Islam...


49 posted on 09/17/2015 2:14:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

Dear, dear, jug headed Nick - Donald filed 4 times for Chapter 11 - not a chapter 7. These deals were his own money - her bad deals were on company time. Got it? Or do we need to draw you pictures?


50 posted on 09/17/2015 2:14:43 PM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

And, we Megan do not give a sh** what you say. Go away!


51 posted on 09/17/2015 2:15:28 PM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

It appears Trump has taken a hit for the Rolling Stone interview. In the two national polls (9/12 Gravis and 9/14 ABC Wash Post) Trump had leads of 12 and 13 respectively.

But since the “look at that face” quote became viral, Trump has been treading water (tied or barely leading). The first was the CBS poll which showed Trump with only a 3-4 point lead on Carson (and actually down 2 in a new Michigan state poll).

There seems to be a growing faction willing to back whomever is the anti Trump flavor of the day. Sort of a reverse Romney.

Fiorina, already with a base of 4-6%, appears to have now become the anti Trumper and grabbed a bunch of soft Carson supporters (remember FOX was pumping up Carson for weeks. Now it’s been Carly who is getting all the flowery coverage. And she’s much more aligned with their RINO ideology than Carson).

I feel it’s still Trump’s to lose. But he needs to sharpen his game a bit. He seemed a bit unprepared for the blitz he received last night, and was sort of stunned (for one of the first times) at the Fiorina question/answer.


52 posted on 09/17/2015 2:15:58 PM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOP)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

this sounds like one of fat boy’s focus groups


53 posted on 09/17/2015 2:16:11 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

Nancy P was just on -—for a second I thought it was I Carly. Same hair and wrinkles — or lack of !


54 posted on 09/17/2015 2:16:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Read my lips: no more Bushes)
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To: ScottWalkerForPresident2016

Well lookee here: Marco Rubio got a nice bump last night.


55 posted on 09/17/2015 2:16:48 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: LS

Internet “polls” are not scientific polls. They are MEANINGLESS. It’s amazing that someone who’s been on this forum since 1998 still doesn’t understand the science of polls.

This poll is scientific and the results make perfect sense. Trump was outshined by almost every other candidate last night. He had nothing new to say and showed a lack of depth on most of the issues.

Rubio and Fiorina, whatever their faults as candidates, simply did a better job answering the questions.

The poll shows Trump was considered the second place winner of the debate, but also the second place loser. He’s polarizing. He’s showing signs of sinking to the same thing that dogged him from the beginning of his candidacy, his extremely high negatives.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/281579691/One-America-News-Gravis-Marketing-Post-Debate


56 posted on 09/17/2015 2:17:11 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Steelfish

Delusional, aren’t you?


57 posted on 09/17/2015 2:17:36 PM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
It's cooked to be part of the narrative.

Exactly. This one was the most obvious, save for the usual sock puppets and meat puppets.
58 posted on 09/17/2015 2:18:17 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Catsrus

Foam and froth soon evaporate.


59 posted on 09/17/2015 2:18:34 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Catsrus

The poll is by One America News, which people on FR have been insisting is more conservative than FOX. Yet you think they’re part of the vast left-wing conspiracy? LOL

This is an OUTSTANDING scientific poll that had well over 1,000 participants. Its results are as accurate as can be. Drudge’s poll is NOT a poll, it’s useless, meaningless, pointless, unscientific, a complete waste of time. Anyone who cites it for any reason should be a laughing stock in political analysis.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/281579691/One-America-News-Gravis-Marketing-Post-Debate


60 posted on 09/17/2015 2:21:29 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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