WRONG! Christ was not teaching the mustard seed was the smallest seed out of every seed on the earth, nor that is becomes the greatest among herbs (the banana plant is) , but " which a man took, and sowed in his field." (Matthew 13:31-32) Thus the context is local, which is like saying in America, "the dime is the smallest of coins." Thus the Lord was not teaching a scientific fallacy to illustrate a point, but was teaching a known fact in the realm that this was restricted to.
But behold what ease you descend into blasphemy into order to defend your absurd doctrine at any cost, which is consistent with Christ teaching myth, which is what you have Him doing despite your vain denials!
He ‘never sued deception before- so by your rules, He can’t possibly be using deception here I nthe mustard seed analogy, yet the fact is He did-
Wrong : He would be deceiving people or mistaken if He was teaching the mustard seed was the smallest in the whole world, as it is necessary for the physical example which represents the spiritual reality to be true if the latter is to be held as true in the analogy.
Christ gave no indication that He was using a myth, and here you are no better than RCs who teach that the story of Jonah and the great fish was a fable, yet the Lord invokes that as being analogous to His resurrection. If the former was a fable then so also.
[[while in your case you have Christ teaching science fiction, which He NEVER did in any of His 45 parables.]]
He never had occasion to before- yet in this case He DID have a reason for doing so- a VERY specific reason
You reasons are a false like what you have the Lord teaching, and the Lord never had occasion to use science fiction. Instead of correcting the idea of souls going to Hell or Abraham's' bosom, He affirmed it while correcting the errors the Pharise
[[Talk about compelled absurdity! ]] es held.
Keep it civil Daniel or I’m done with you- T
Then stop posting absurdities, if not then you should be done with me as i am fed up with them!
yet the man In hell is able to speak to him? Did he have a supernaturally loud voice? Did He have super vision...Was the rich man supernaturally strong
You are making the classic cultist mistake of imposing the physical laws of this realm upon the supernatural. How could the res. Lord come thru closed doors and then eat food? Where did it go to?.
Lazarus represents Gentiles Even if so, they were real people, not Klingon's, nor was the place and experience of Lazarus or his counterpart something that was unreal.
This whole parable is steeped in Jewish customs, sayings, and erroneous teachings
Which science fiction you have the Lord teaching as representing reality, which is nowhere seen, and contrary to the imposed meaning being true.
The more you try to defend cultic doctrine then the more you are exposed as a vain sophist, and now a blasphemer, for all to see. Give it up even if only for the sake of your eternal soul!
[[You are making the classic cultist mistake of imposing the physical laws of this realm upon the supernatural.]]
And you’re not? You claim wen a parable is told the ‘
rule is’ the one doing the telling must use ‘real things’
[[How could the res. Lord come thru closed doors and then eat food? Where did it go to?.]]
Are you claiming that people in hell can speak with those in heaven across a great distance (or at all for that matter)?
[[The more you try to defend cultic doctrine then the more you are exposed as a vain sophist, and now a blasphemer,]]
Lol- now I’m a blasphemer- my goodness- what a wretch I am - please explain how stating Christ is turning a MYTH around on the Pharisees is blasphemy- You’re making some pretty nasty accusations-
[[Christ gave no indication that He was using a myth, ]]
Where in God’s word is there a command that He had to?
[[Wrong : He would be deceiving people or mistaken if He was teaching the mustard seed was the smallest in the whole world, as it is necessary for the physical example which represents the spiritual reality to be true if the latter is to be held as true in the analogy. ]]
Wrong- He stated, as recorded by the apostles, that the mustard seed was the smallest seed- your explanation doesn’t even make sense - He stated something that was not true- He did so as a means of speaking about what the people knew- or believed- the point stands-
[[WRONG! Christ was not teaching the mustard seed was the smallest seed out of every seed on the earth,]]
he wasn’t? Please cite where He clarifies for His listeners- My bible doesn’t contain such a statement of clarification- perhaps your does?
[[Thus the context is local, which is like saying in America, “the dime is the smallest of coins.” Thus the Lord was not teaching a scientific fallacy to illustrate a point, but was teaching a known fact in the realm that this was restricted to]]
Sorry- that isn’t what the verse says- The statement is that it’s the smallest seed- AFTER claiming it’s a seed that is planted- You’re stretching the word-
[[and the Lord never had occasion to use science fiction.]]
Sure He did- when confronting pharisees who were teaching a false doctrine-
[[Then stop posting absurdities, if not then you should be done with me as i am fed up with them!]]
Good for you- Would have been nice had you made a comment with the caveat that no one was able to have a difference of opinion because you can’t handle discussing things in a civil manner-
[[How could the res. Lord come thru closed doors and then eat food?]]
The resurrected Lord had a physical body- Are you suggesting those in hell have physical bodies but are able to suspend physical laws as did God?
[[Give it up even if only for the sake of your eternal soul!]]
OSAS-
[[The more your try the more desperate and absurd you are exposed to be.]]
How about addressing the points brought up instead of constantly ignoring them and concentrating on attacking my character?
[[Wrong, for all the Scriptural reasons given. Real names were never used in parable and the Lord never used any non-existent place or experience as representing reality, including in metaphors.]]
There ya go- Now please point to a scriptural passage that states this must always be the case? This is your only defense- which you state over and over- which basically boils down to this
“Because it’s never been done before, it can’t ever be done because, well... that’s the rule” That’s it- that’s all you’ve said basically-
[[and thus Christ went to Paradise the day of His death, ]]
Paradise huh? Care to show where the bible speaks of Him DESCENDING into paradise