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To call God a liar immediately cancels the accuser’s basis for faith and thus cancels at that moment their chance for salvation!

I'm writing to encourage you to reconsider this statement. I haven't followed the very long-winded and apparently acrimonius debate between Bob and Daniel, but it seems to me you've crossed an important line with that statement. It is one thing to disparage a group's beliefs as being sufficiently unorthodox to prevent salvation, but it is quite another to make such a charge publicly toward an individual, even in the third person, and especially inferentially, as you have. It appears that in doing so you violate Jesus' admonition against judging. You're thereby exceeding your authority, even if you are correct in your inference.

Please reconsider.

Can a heart have saving faith in someone's Promises if that heart believes God would not be fully truthful? The doubt sown by questioning if God has told a falsehood dissolves saving faith, as shown with the Pharisees and more extremely with the Sadducees. The poster is carrying this seed of doubt sown in his/her heart out into the realm of trying to confine God to absolutes, in a search for excerption clauses. Such a heart is not faithing in the Promises of God, which is the ONLY way that Jesus Christ saves in the Church Age. Think about it: would you trust that someone believes you if they were constantly replying, 'Yes, but ..."

This is so much more insidious than merely questioning the parameters of metaphor and similes Jesus used. Read all the posts this one has placed in just this thread, and you will have a fuller picture of a legalist, not a faither.