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Cruz rebukes Carson for comments about Muslim president [Original title]
The Hill ^ | 9/21/15 | Mark Hensch

Posted on 09/21/2015 12:05:21 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

Edited on 09/21/2015 3:25:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Admin Mod note: Title changed at source to Cruz: Carson's stance on Muslim presidents unconstitutional

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is criticizing GOP rival Ben Carson for saying that a Muslim should not be president of the United States.

At a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, on Sunday evening, Cruz said religious convictions should have no bearing on one’s fitness for the Oval Office.

“You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am constitutionalist,” he said, according to The Des Moines Register.

“My view, listen. The president’s faith is between him and God,” the 2016 Republican White House hopeful added of President Obama. “What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bencarson; cantbepresident; carson; constitution; cruz; lyingheadlinealert; muslim; president
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To: Oatka
I wonder how the country would take it?

We'd fight. Some would harshly criticize not using a bible, and the media would fire back that they were racist bigots. Same as we always do.
161 posted on 09/21/2015 1:38:09 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: xzins
Jesus said "My kingdom is not of (from) this world". Jn 18:36

It is incorrect to take Jesus' meaning to be that he does not rule over all creation or that he does not have authority over the Earth. To understand His meaning better, a look at the grammar of the preposition translated "of" is helpful. It indicates origin or source. Jesus is saying to Pilot that His Kingdom is not from the created order but superior and over the created order. Pilot gets his authority from Rome, some from the consent of the governed, others by birth, but Christ gets his authority from the a source higher and over all others, namely the Father. As the creator, sustainer of all things and as the redeemer of elect, Jesus rules over all, in perfect harmony with the Father, according to His eternal purpose by the counsel of will of God and for the glory of God.

162 posted on 09/21/2015 1:38:18 PM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: noinfringers2

Where in the Constitution does it say that a Muslim cannot run for President?


163 posted on 09/21/2015 1:38:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: noinfringers2

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Read the article before posting!
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164 posted on 09/21/2015 1:39:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: D-fendr

“Cruz is right. No religious test.”

It must be exhilarating to be so broad minded, so open minded. Just think, you would die for somebody’s right to slit your throat if you don’t convert to his religion. Now, that is true dedication.

However, the plain context of the Constitution, as explained by the ones who wrote it, was fashioned solely in the context of Christianity. They wrote that it could only exist in the context of a Christian population. And, they didn’t think it could exist with any other people, also.


165 posted on 09/21/2015 1:39:31 PM PDT by odawg
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To: dfwgator

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I’ll loan you the use of my tagline for a very nominal fee. :o)


166 posted on 09/21/2015 1:40:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: mmichaels1970
"according to at least the text of this story, there is absolutely no mention by Cruz of Carson and no rebuke whatsoever. Just the media doing what the media does"

Yeah, media attempting to stir up a feces storm, as per usual.

Cruz doesn't attack the other candidates. He's the only one practicing Reagan's 11th commandment.

Anyway there's no need for him to attack them. They all are good people who have many positive qualities and accomplishments to recommend them-But, Ted Cruz is far and away the best candidate running-This is so obvious to anyone paying attention, who has at least some understanding of what's gone wrong with our country.

He (Ted) is the person our nation needs to begin the monumental task to repair and heal it from the tremendous damage that has been inflicted by the Marxists, and their selfish, cowardly, enablers in the GOPe, who have completely abandoned their oath to uphold our Constitution, and who have surrendered us to those who would destroy us.

Ted Cruz is the man for this job.

167 posted on 09/21/2015 1:41:12 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Dagon is your guy, isn’t he?"

Can't say I know him personally; I merely sought to gratify your peculiar obsession with him.

BTW on the topic of this thread you're wrong and Cruz is wrong -- Islam is not merely just another religion. It is a socio-political economic system whicj is wholly incompatible with the Founding Principles of this Republic. You cannot serve two masters.

168 posted on 09/21/2015 1:41:29 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

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Actually, I personally agree with your point, but the constitution doesn’t leave room for plural interpretation, unfortunately.


169 posted on 09/21/2015 1:44:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: lucky american

The voter is the discretionary factor as to what worldview will make it into the White House.

Does the Constitution have the power to sense worldview dangers found in Shariah Law especially if an Islamic candidate ran for president?


170 posted on 09/21/2015 1:50:14 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: so_real
The article intimates Carson feels the same and Cruz feels otherwise; as such I disagree strongly with Cruz.

The article may intimate such an idea, but there is nothing in Cruz's words to support that. So you are buying into the narrative that the liberal author is trying to sell in order to stir up dissension among conservatives.

Cruz addressed one issue only - the reality that the government may not impose a religious test on candidates for office. I think Cruz strongly agrees that the VOTERS have a duty to consider the beliefs (religious and otherwise) of any candidate before choosing to vote for them.

171 posted on 09/21/2015 1:52:56 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: editor-surveyor
but the constitution doesn’t leave room for plural interpretation, unfortunately.

I know I've posted it a couple times, but people don't seem to understand:

35 years old.
Natural born citizen.
Resident for at least 14 years.

Why is that so hard for folks to understand?

Article II Section I:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


Nothing about wiccan's, commies, Marxists, Nazis, Satanists, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads, or Fox News hosts are excluded in the Constitution. It's left up to US and our good judgement to make sure that doesn't happen.
172 posted on 09/21/2015 1:53:45 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: editor-surveyor

Cruz : "You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am constitutionalist ... My view, listen. The president's faith is between him and God ... What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record."

Carson : "I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation ... I absolutely would not agree with that ... If it's inconsistent with the values of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and [is] consistent with the Constitution, no problem."

Carson had the better response. Cruz intimates that if it's not unconstitutional he's okay with it. Carson intimates that just because we can does not mean we should. Of the two, Carson's stated position is, in my opinion, more inline with the Founders' thinking as noted in John Jay's statement. Of the two candidates, I sincerely believe Cruz is more strongly against the islamification of America, but only because I am familiar with a multitude of Cruz's speeches. You would not get that impression from Cruz's statement in Des Moines without reading more into the article than what is there.


173 posted on 09/21/2015 1:58:01 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: BlatherNaut

I don’t see a rebuke here. Just facts.


174 posted on 09/21/2015 2:04:42 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: CA Conservative

There's never been a litmus test to prevent witches, or communists, or pedophiles from running for president either. So if the question were raised, do you think a communist should be allowed to be President? ... would you answer "there is no litmus test" or would you answer "a communist has no business running this nation". Cruz did one. Carson did the other. I love Cruz, but I have to be honest in that I prefer Carson's response. He did it better; he intimated a better position.


175 posted on 09/21/2015 2:05:23 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

There’s never been a litmus test to prevent witches, or communists, or pedophiles from running for president either. So if the question were raised, do you think a communist should be allowed to be President? ... would you answer “there is no litmus test” or would you answer “a communist has no business running this nation”. Cruz did one. Carson did the other. I love Cruz, but I have to be honest in that I prefer Carson’s response. He did it better; he intimated a better position.
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EXACTLY RIGHT!


176 posted on 09/21/2015 2:07:42 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: so_real

Cruz and Carson were responding to vastly different questions.

Keep on reading.


177 posted on 09/21/2015 2:08:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BlatherNaut; All

Cruz should understand and state that Islam is not merely a religion, but it is a violent, life-encompassing system of economic/political/social control posing as a religion. It is murderous dictatorship that devours even its own. It deserves no place within our Constitution or country.


178 posted on 09/21/2015 2:08:33 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I don't see where Carson said anything about a religious test for office

And I don't see where I said Carson said that.

I think what is going on is media manipulating a conflict/controversy where none should exist. I should have pointed that out from my very first comment on the thread.

And, it seems the media loves to foster fights and get everyone off on irrelevant sidebars.

Thanks for your reply.

179 posted on 09/21/2015 2:10:45 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Little test here:

Which religions can abide by our Second Amendment? Which religion cannot?


180 posted on 09/21/2015 2:16:58 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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