Posted on 09/25/2015 7:45:29 AM PDT by SJackson
Perhaps because it hasn't been sorted out yet. Or perhaps it's because the Haj is segregated. Western Muslims are moved around and housed in separate tent areas from the folks from say Bangladesh or Africa.
Also how does the "no-infidels-allowed" policy for Meccca and Medina affect medical help, victim assistance and body recovery?
It is more huge numbers of people and poor crowd control. The Saudis are simply incompetent.
Any senior cop who is familiar with large events could have told the Saudis that the thousands who had just finished stoning the Devil should be allowed to exit before the next group was allowed to enter. Really, how hard is that? “OK, you guys, you have to hold up for a few minutes while until we’re ready for you!”
Well, Hakim, every account I've read about the event sounds like the cause was pretty simple. Two crowds of "pilgrims" were traveling in opposite directions down a narrow street. One crowd had just finished the "stoning the devil" ritual and the other was going there. Neither group wanted to yield.
It is the type of thing which happens with a religion which preaches superiority and vengeance.
I think the event should be made into an annual betting pool.
Someone at the front must have yelled “Free boys!” and that started the thundering herd.
Sounds simple enough when you are dealing with civilized people, but that's not the case here. Various groups of Muslims consider themselves superior to other such groups.
If you look up the history of these Hajj stampedes, you will find remarkable similarity on various factions refusing to yield. One of the bigger death tolls had to do with one group walking too slowly through an air-conditioned tunnel built specifically to handle these large crowds. One or more of the groups behind them took umbrage at the pace and created a stampede walking over them.
Put too many MS-13 gangster types in the same area and this type of mayhem is unavoidable.
And the problem is?
Let’em....we can always level that country later.
Or let the Russians have at it...they owe ‘em for the Saudis support of the Chechen scum.
Nice to see they are not just chanting death to Jews or Americans—Join the Party Saudi Arabia! Iran is coming for YOU next. Suggestion to king of Saudi Arabia: A secret deal with Israel.
They would probably be inclined to obey direct orders from armed Saudi policemen. You just have to adjust the crowd-control enforcement to the type of crowds you expect.
Malaysians, Indonesians, Bangladeshis, probably. Al Qaida and ISIS types, probably not.
The day is young.
China is the big hog at the mideast oil trough these days.
Those friendly people with Mafia business practices and 1.4 b expendable people to enforce them.
I say let them straighten it out.
The LORD said to Hagar about Ishmael’s descendants:
Gen 16:12
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
Hard to be an atheist with God’s accuracy from 1000s of years ago. You could just as well be reading todays headlines.
Well, sporting events would be interesting with a lot of Muslims here. “Death to Dallas Cowboys”!!!! “Death to the referee!!”
:)
What - like that doesn't happen at your church?
No never seen a stampede at my church. I guess its too calm and tranquil in my place of worship..........
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