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Rick Santorum accuses Ted Cruz of supporting �amnesty� for illegal immigrants
washington times ^ | 9/25/2015 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 09/25/2015 9:47:22 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum vowed Friday to pursue immigration policies that protect American workers, while warning voters that some of his GOP rivals have embraced a much softer approach to the issue. Mr. Santorum, the runner-up in the 2012 Republican nomination battle, urged the crowd that converged on a hotel in Washington, D.C., for the annual Values Voter Summit to recognize that a couple of the speakers before him — Sens. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz — have previously supported “amnesty” for illegal immigrants. “You have a lot of people that come up here and talk about how tough they are, but they actually support amnesty. The speaker just before me running for president, he will tell you how tough he is,” Mr. Santorum said, alluding to Mr. Cruz. “He offered an amendment to allow people to stay in this country indefinitely. To me, that is amnesty.” Mr. Santorum has struggled to gain a foothold in national polling and is running near the back of the pack. With that as a backdrop, the 57-year-old has staked a lot in the immigration debate. He also has touted the conservative record he compiled in Congress, including authoring legislation aimed at changing the leadership of the Iranian government. Mr. Santorum served in the House from 1991 to 1995 and in the Senate from 1995 to 2007 when he lost his re-election bid to Democrat Bob Casey Jr. by a 59 percent to 41 percent margin.

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To: C. Edmund Wright

There was a time I really liked Santorum and respected his integrity. This is out of line for him, because the point he makes is clearly the poison pill that Cruz offered to the comprehensive immigration bill.

Cruz has other problems on immigration that are fair game: H1B visa, TPA fast track will make TPP and its hidden immigration language easier to pass. Just a month ago he didn’t want to talk about his plan until “after the fence” is built, but now he’s politicking as if he always had a plan.

But Santorum has no traction and is attacking one of the few real conservative hopes in this campaign, Cruz’s faults notwithstanding.


261 posted on 01/05/2016 2:27:07 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JoSixChip

yes Rick Santorum is a damned liar.


262 posted on 01/05/2016 2:32:29 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: xzins

and yet you support a man with MANY MANY BIGGER flaws for MIUCH LONGER.

And I don’t think you understand Cruz on TPA.


263 posted on 01/05/2016 2:36:30 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: opentalk

Exclusive RedState Video: Ted Cruz Explains why His Position on H-1B Visas Has Changed

http://www.redstate.com/2015/12/23/exclusive-redstate-video-ted-cruz-explains-position-h-1b-visas-changed/


264 posted on 01/05/2016 2:38:07 PM PST by OhioBuckeye ("Here sir, the people govern." - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Radix
In September,2012 Cruz expressly told the NY Times that he supported immigration reform (i.e. Amnesty) and he rejected any notion of self deportation.

Immigration reform does not equate with amnesty, though many of the GOPe conflate the two. Immigration reform means fixing the things that are broken (immigration should be based on our needs, not on things like reuniting families, etc.) and improving the systems for enforcing the immigration laws (e-verify, biometrics, better tracking of expired visas, as well as a wall). Most of us support that kind of immigration reform. And relying on self-deportation as the primary method of removing illegals is inefficient. As we find illegals, they should be deported. This is what Cruz has consistently said.

265 posted on 01/05/2016 2:44:44 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Yes, Cruz supported legalization for all illegals, though he wanted to bar them from citizenship. It’s well documented despite the lies put out by the Cruz’s more fanatical supporters and Cruz’s campaign surrogates.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372213/posts


266 posted on 01/05/2016 2:52:41 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: right way right; opentalk
Anti Cruz trolls don’t last long here at freerepublic.com

I've been accused of being an anti-Cruz troll, but nobody touches a hair on my handsome head.

By the way, yes, Cruz supported mass legalization.

267 posted on 01/05/2016 2:54:25 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I understand he voted for it. It’s one of his 3 major mistakes: Corker Nuke Bill, TPA, H1B. I don’t intend to whitewash errors.

I’m beginning to think you don’t understand the Trump supporters who are conservative. I want him to blow things up, and there’s a good chance he might. IOW, I’d rather have a win by an outsider, fledgling, recent convert than a loss by a nearly ideal conservative.

The perfect storm for me is a Trump/Cruz ticket. That’s why I continue to donate to Cruz. I want him to stay relevant and push Trump while he outpaces all the other establishment types.

Cruz’s constituency is the huge social conservative base...of which I am a part. (And he might bring a few Hispanics.)

Trump’s is the blue collar, middle class democrat, the hard-nosed conservatives, the defense and security conservatives.


268 posted on 01/05/2016 2:58:22 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; All

Depends on what you mean by “legalization”.

I am open to correction but...

Here are some policies proposed by various Republican candidates:

1) Round them all up and deport them and make sure they never return. No application for residency allowed. As for children born here of illegals, let them go with their parents ( even when they are Americans ).

2) Round them all up and deport them, and make them re-apply legally to come back OUTSIDE the country.

As for children born here of illegals, let them go with their parents ( even when they are Americans ).

3) Starve them of job opportunities via eVerify and employer fines so that they self-deport. They can then re-apply legally to come back OUTSIDE the country.

4) Build a wall, make sure we are finally satisfied that it is effective in keeping illegals out based on a rigid criteria, then and only then do we even start to talk about what to do with the parents of those children born in the USA.

5) Let those who are here illegally pay a fine, make sure they pay taxes and then give them a path to legalization.

Those are the most BROAD BASED proposals I have heard thus far from various candidates ( add what you have heard here if I miss anything ).

Tom Tancredo is the only one I know whose policy conforms to # 1 above ( but he’s not running ).

Donald Trump is the only one I know of whose policy conforms to # 2 above.

Ted Cruz seems to be shifting between #3 and #4 above and I can’t pin him down. Mark Levin’s views come closest to Ted Cruz based on what I have been hearing from him.

Marco Rubio used to be for #5 but has since moved back to #4.

Jeb Bush and John kasich are BOTH for #5 above.


269 posted on 01/05/2016 3:13:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: xzins

so what are you saying? He’s weak on jobs and weak on Iran? Or maybe you don’t understand what goes on in the Senate?


270 posted on 01/05/2016 4:32:37 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No, I mean specifically that he made mistakes on Corker and on TPA, and that he was flat out wrong on H1B.

I see no justification for voting for Corker. Better to have filed suit against the administration for pretending a major agreement with multiple foreign powers is not a treaty in need of Senate ratification.

TPA — Cruz says McConnell lied to him. OK. But I still don’t like that he fell for it.

H1B — he’s been very laudatory of H1B, and only recently Sessions must have smacked him upside the head and told him he was wrong. He’s backed off some last month, iirc, and is willing to await the results of some study or investigation or something.

You know, CEW, maybe I’m the one that’s all wet. Maybe Corker, TPA, and H1B are all made in heaven, and I’m an old stick in the mud.


271 posted on 01/05/2016 4:38:33 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: opentalk
Ted Cruz wants to increase H-1B visas from 65,000 to 325,000 annually

Here's the part you purposefully left out!

WASHINGTON, D.C. — U.S. Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) today introduced the American Jobs First Act of 2015 (S. 2394), reforming the H-1B visa program to stop abuse of the legal immigration system and ensure American workers are better served.

“The American Jobs First Act of 2015 is a necessary effort to repair the H-1B visa program to prevent it from displacing American workers,” Sen. Cruz said. “This legislation aligns the program with its original intent, does more to prevent employers from using the program to replace hard-working American men and women with cheaper foreign labor, and helps to create greater transparency of job needs and opportunities in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields, so that unemployed Americans with the necessary skills can apply for these jobs.  It is my hope that the American Jobs First Act of 2015 becomes part of a broader congressional effort to make immigration work for the American people again.” 

“The mass layoff of American workers at Disney, Southern California Edison, and many other companies – who were then forced to train their foreign replacements – underscores that our political system has failed in its duty to protect our own people,” said Sen. Sessions. “I applaud Senator Cruz for his leadership on this legislation, which would protect American workers from discrimination by barring companies from laying them off and replacing them in order to lower their labor costs.  The H-1B program is nowhere close to the program it is said to be.  Far from filling ‘labor shortages’, it is being used to destroy existing jobs of American workers. This legislation would improve wage standards for the H-1B visa, block its use as a cheap labor program, and scrap the terribly abused foreign worker ‘training program’ which has become a backdoor method for replacing American workers.  It would also eliminate the diversity lottery, which has become yet one more avenue for low-wage labor.  In every sense, this bill is the exact opposite of the I-squared proposal which was written by and for industry interests, and which would further drive down wages for American workers.  I hope the Senate and House will take up and pass the ‘American Jobs First Act,’ and send the message that real immigration reform answers to the American people, not the special interests.” 

Key highlights of the bill include:

Requiring H-1B employers who seek H-1B visas under the program to commit to paying the foreign workers they recruit either what an American worker who did identical or similar work made two years prior to the recruiting effort, or $110,000 (whichever is higher).

Establishing a “layoff cool-off” period of two years (730 days), which would prevent an employer from bringing on an H-1B visa-based foreign worker within two years of an employee strike, an employer lockout, layoffs, furloughs, or other types of involuntary employee terminations other than for-cause dismissals.

Strengthening internal (company) and external (public domain) transparency requirements, in order to ensure that both company employees and the job-seeking public are aware of the company’s H-1B visa application and potential job opportunities at the company.

Requiring increased H-1B visa application transparency on the part of the Department of Labor, with real-time online updating of companies’ H-1B visa application submissions, the publication of certain application information (including the identities of the companies and employees who have submitted the applications), and additional reporting to Congress about program abusers.

Preventing continued use of the non-statute-based Optional Practical Training (OPT) Program, and the creation and use of other similar programs, which have also been used to displace American workers under the guise of student training.

Read the full text of the American Jobs First Act of 2015 here and a summary of the legislation here

272 posted on 01/05/2016 6:51:54 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins; C. Edmund Wright
H1B — he’s been very laudatory of H1B, and only recently Sessions must have smacked him upside the head and told him he was wrong. He’s backed off some last month, iirc, and is willing to await the results of some study or investigation or something.

See post #272 for the details that seem to be fuzzy in your mind.
273 posted on 01/05/2016 6:53:14 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins; C. Edmund Wright
Trump’s is the blue collar, middle class democrat, the hard-nosed conservatives, the defense and security conservatives.

Sorry xzins, but Cruz's constituency include all of those, including a large part of the conservative Libertarian base.
274 posted on 01/05/2016 6:54:52 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Santorum Trashed Sarah Palin on Fox News but NOT to her face. He lost all self respect for himself when he joined with Huck to trash Ted about a vote on a amendment .

He once or twice refused to support Toomey in Pennsylvania Senate race but backed Arlen Specter instead.

When he is running for President every other word out of his mouth is Jesus, but I never noticed that when he was safely in the Senate.

Sorry he is not really fit for office


275 posted on 01/05/2016 7:19:00 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST...RUBIO NO GOOD)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Santorum trashed Sarah Palin on Fox news a number of years ago... I didn`t need to hear anything more from him


276 posted on 01/05/2016 7:22:22 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST...RUBIO NO GOOD)
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To: brothers4thID
Some anti-Cruz trolls would like to believe anything bad they can about Cruz, ignoring the evidence presented by the Congressional Record, Senator Sessions, Senator Lee, and Senator Cruz himself.
Cruz admitted to lying to kill the bill (so he says). As I have stated before. It doesn't matter that you agree with why he lied, the point is he (admitted) he lied. This from the guy that went to the Senate Chamber to whine and cry with his droopy eyes, hang dog face and feigned indignation to complain about being lied to.

He made a proposal to a bill under false pretenses. Making proposals to a legal document under false pretenses in most case is not simply lying, it's fraud.

The real question because we now know he's a liar, (don't take my word for it he admitted it) The real question is: was he lying then or is he lying now?...How will we ever know when he is NOT lying? The term most used for Christians that lie is not phony Christian (though that would be accurate), it's "hypocrite".

Oh, and BTW, sadly, Sessions and Lee are also guilty of lying but they aren't running to be President or pretending to be holier than thou.

277 posted on 01/05/2016 7:23:25 PM PST by lewislynn ( You know you're a Muslim if everything offends you.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
This is what I think of when I see Rick Santorum:


278 posted on 01/05/2016 9:11:54 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: SoConPubbie; xzins

X, I don’t want to put words into SoCon’s mouth - but I bet he’s seeing a little bit of what I am seeing - and that is, you have a posting history over years that we are familiar with, and you continue to trash the man who seems to be most consistent with your entire FR history in favor of a man who has spent much of that time very much opposed or very ambivalent towards things you have seemed to care about.

I just don’t get it.


279 posted on 01/06/2016 2:10:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: C. Edmund Wright; SoConPubbie

I haven’t trashed any conservative. I’ve been honest about their mistakes and weaknesses...to include Trump, Carson, Perry, Walker, Rubio, et al
Cruz’s mistakes and weaknesses are as I’ve listed. Just fact.


280 posted on 01/06/2016 3:43:22 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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