Posted on 09/28/2015 7:45:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Last night, Donald Trump sat down with Scott Pelley on ’60 Minutes’ and made a gloriously confused barrage of promises and wishcasting about taxes, Social Security, ISIL, trade, and immigration. There’s a lot in there, but for my money his most laughable comments were about repealing Obamacare. Here’s the key section:
Scott Pelley: What’s your plan for Obamacare?
Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.
Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: –the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
Okay, he’s going to repeal Obamacare, but replace it with a system where “everybody’s got to be covered.” Very Obamacare-ish.
According to Trump, uninsured people are going to get coverage because he’s going to “make a deal with existing hospitals” and “the government’s gonna pay for it.” There’s a word for this exact proposal: Medicaid. Trump probably doesn’t know this, but Medicaid expansion was a huge part of Obamacare. The “deal with existing hospitals” is so unfavorable for doctors and hospitals that many of them do not accept Medicaid patients because it would put them out of business. Does Trump know this? Meh, he doesn’t care.
But that’s just the uninsured. Trump goes on to say that “for the most part,” his plan will be “a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition.” If this idea also sounds strangely familiar, it is because this too is already part of our healthcare framework. Trump described the Obamacare exchanges just like Obama did, as increasing competition in the private insurance markets by providing lots of options.
And what would a health reform proposal be like without transparently false promises? Remember, “if you like your plan, you can keep it”? Trump thinks it’s a great idea, and not only can you keep your doctor, keep your plan, you “can have everything!”
Summing Up: Pelley didn’t push hard on any of Trump’s stream-of-conscious proposals, so we don’t know in what way his plan would differ from expansion of Medicaid and Obamacare or how he would avoid the “if you like it, you can keep it” trap. Does anyone think Trump even knows?
Very logical argument as to why a Trump or a Romney is still waaaaaaaay better than an ObaMao third term . . . but I still stand by my previous post.
Then President Trump can go out and say, "If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. If you don't, consider HSAs and MSAs."
Trump is a private market guy. He knows private companies can handle the load without relying on taxpayer subsidies.
At least I hope he knows that. I've never met the man so I could be wrong.
Did you hear him add “ for them” and said also it would not work here today.
Amen Brother FReeper.
YES. Thank you.
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>> “I can do socialism better than Obama.” <<
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You’ve nailed it EV!
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*sigh*
Your excess of faith is disturbing.
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Yep!
WE need to prune out some “Robins” here.
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LOL -- yep. I guess I'm just taking longer to understand and appreciate his unlimited greatness. That genuflecting thing just doesn't come easy to me.
Keep telling yourself that Trump isn't at heart a statist who thinks government needs to step-in and MAKE us "be responsible" because left to our own, we wouldn't be as "good" as Trump, Hillary, Obama, and Romney think we should be when it comes to taking care of our own health.
Not Bruce Wayne, Brave Heart.
“Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody.”
Progressivism is as progressivism does....
What IS surprising is that so many are fooled.
40 years in the corporate world with my integrity intact and a great reputation for getting things done and running teams of people beyond my core competency..
Think team not he or me
None of us is as good as ALL of US!!
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Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: the government’s gonna pay for it.
You're not alone. I know many people like you, and many of them are hard-left Democrats who believe in the "it takes a village" meme, which is essentially "Think 'team' not 'he' or 'me' ... none of us is as good as all of us!"
How about thinking The Constitution of the United States of America? Individual rights and individual responsibilities? Trump sure as hell doesn't. Cruz DOES.
All your years in the corporate world doesn't alter the fact that Trump is Arnold Schwarzenegger on a national scale. I used to have the same blind faith in Arnold, for the same reasons (you should look at the pretty impressive business accomplishments of Arnold, more impressive because unlike Trump, Arnold wasn't born to privilege).
Engage in Hyperbole much?
To date nothing he has state or claimed about his plan remotely fits the mold you wish to portray, but fearmonger away.
Once a plan is actually released we can discuss, until then you are just screaming about nothing, worked into a tissy with no fact, and what the propagandists referred to as the “useful idiot”
“Preventive care” is up to the individual, just like it’s up to the individual to maintain his or her home or automobile.
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