[perfect_rovian_storm]

Do you have a definition of that? Because I haven't seen his plan yet. Unhinged malcontents like you are simply reading whatever you want to into vague statements.

It took 100 years of doing nothing but piling on to already broken 'systems' to get us where we are now. Someone comes along trying to make at least some sense of this horrendous mess and all you can do is whine about how it doesn't conform to your particular orthodoxy.

I guess you can put me on your little list now, Edmund.

[C. Edmund Wright]

history tells us what the definition is.....what can “we” possibly mean here except government care. I mean, he said just a few weeks ago that it works great in Scotland and Canada - and that total single payer would have worked here just a few years ago.

You are the one reading whatever you fantasize about into it and projecting, I’m using the man’s own words.