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To: MARKUSPRIME
First, the infamous F-18 HUD picture was the result of the F-18 being killed well before the merge and the jet continued to the merge to get a nice picture. It was not a F-22 ‘kill’ or gun shot as the F-18 was already dead and the F-22 rightfully ignored it and was shooting the second wave of the package.

Second, no, they can't see it. There are brief, very brief moments when the LO capability is compromised, but that brief moment is not enough to glean any info regarding alt, heading, airspeed, etc.

Third, IRST is a nice capability but that capability is significantly reduced when engaged against the F-22. The dispersed IR plume of the F-22 makes detection at range extremely problematic. . .and those Russian jets will die well before they can be a threat.

Fourth, there is no hubris in recognizing its inherent capability. It is something to leverage and train with. . .and we do. There are times when the 5th Gen capability is mitigated intentionally as this will allow training for both sides.

Fifth, no I have not played video games with this jet, or any other. I am a former fighter pilot and have actually flown alongside and against the F-22. So, rather than take some game designers guess as to the F-22’s capability (along with their knowledge-gap regarding its classified capabilities) as representative of the jets 5th (and emerging 6th) Gen capability, I go with real-world knowledge.

Lastly, defense forums and such, same as gamers but with a little more technical knowledge, have some credibility but they, too, operate with limited knowledge and posters/commentators are, like me, bound from posting true specifics. And we can't overlook disinformation campaigns on those forums, disinformation by the Russians, China, North Korea, even the French. These disinformation posters are trying to glean classified info, to provoke “discussion” in order to subtly trick posters/writers into revealing more than they should.

That's it for me. Have a great day.

133 posted on 10/04/2015 9:03:52 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

No you are not a fighter pilot(just an internet keyboard warrior, steal that glory bro) or you would know passive radar can still track a stealth aircraft and send queuing orders to SAMs. The only thing would be if it was jammed or taken out by a missile strike before a F-22 comes in. I like the F-22 I am one of its biggest cheerleaders, it however is not undetectable only under the right circumstance would it appear so. Yes it has many advantages over a fourth gen. fighter but the Russians are not idiots.

PS. Steal that glory, you are not a fighter pilot. So stop lying.


139 posted on 10/04/2015 10:40:22 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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