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Bidenwatch: He might make a decision this week … maybe
Hotair ^ | 10/05/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 10/05/2015 7:21:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

At what point does indecision about whether to be a leader of his party, if not his nation, become self-parody? CBS News reports this morning that this will be the week that the man who can’t decide whether to run for the Democratic nomination for leader of the free world will finally make up his mind. Or it might be next week. Who knows?

Vice President Joe Biden is nearing a decision on whether to run for president, and it could come as early as within the next seven to 10 days, according to three people familiar with his deliberations. …

Even if Biden decides to seek the Democratic nomination before the party’s first debate on Oct. 13, he likely would not participate, sources told CBS News.

They said he’d need time – perhaps a couple of weeks – to put together the foundations of a campaign and raise money looking ahead to several ballot deadlines. States like New Hampshire, Texas and Florida have deadlines beginning in November.

If it’s not this week or next week, it’ll be the week after that. Maybe:

One source said that by the second half of October, Biden will have definitely made up his mind.

Well, no rush, or anything. It’s easy to lose this point in the Byzantine strategies of launching presidential bids, but let’s not forget that one of the qualities needed in this position is decisiveness. A President faces a lot tougher decisions than whether to challenge Hillary Clinton directly for the Democratic nomination rather than wait for her to pull out. Biden has dragged this out longer than a feud on Survivor.

Not only that, but let’s assume Biden does jump in and manages to displace Hillary in the primaries, which seems unlikely but perhaps not impossible. Biden has done nothing to organize his campaign, to hire key staff for winning primaries, and get donors on board for a general election run. That last point is actually the least of the worries Biden has (if he wins the nomination, he’ll get the donors), but organizing is paramount for 2016. It took Barack Obama months to build an organization that could compete against the Clintons, a point people seem to forget. Hillary started out with a big institutional advantage in 2007, and Obama didn’t begin challenging it until the fall. It wasn’t until December 2007 that he overtook Hillary, thanks to the impact of a long effort to beat her on the ground. That laid the groundwork for his general election campaign.

How does Biden compete in this scenario? It’s true that Republican candidates are too focused on the primary to effectively organize for the general election, but it’s also true that the RNC is working on that ahead of the primary schedule, too. They are conducting a month-long test in October of their new organization built from the “autopsy” of the 2012 election, while the DNC does not appear to be mirroring that effort — perhaps expecting Hillary to do the work on her own, as Obama did. If Hillary isn’t the candidate, Democrats will be in a very deep hole, especially if it turns out to be the unorganized and indecisive Biden who gets the nomination.

So when does it become self-parody? If Biden hasn’t made a decision by the October 13th debate, it’s officially a joke. Unofficially, its status has been established for months.

Update: According to Mike Allen at Politico, even some Democrats are getting tired of Biden’s act:

A former Senate colleague of Biden’s said, after visiting the vice president, “He loves what he does, and he has a great deal of confidence that he could contribute in a meaningful way. He’s willing to face, ultimately, having his final political expedition be a defeat.”

It’s just that possibility that has some friends telling POLITICO that they hope he’ll ultimately decide to take a pass.

One person who’s in the “bearish” camp said he thinks that testing the waters has been its own therapy after Biden’s loss of his son. The vice president has been showered with love and attention, and should declare victory and avoid a likely political debacle.

One longtime friend said the long windup — and the fact that no staff has been hired — tells its own story.

“If you’re going to run, you run,” the friend said. “Every time he pushes back a decision, that’s the ultimate tell.”

A third recent Biden visitor said: “I can’t see how he can wake up one morning and think some big tidal wave sweeps him in. The raw politics just aren’t there.”

It seems unlikely that Biden will jump in while Hillary is still in the race. This whole exercise feels like a reminder that he could be a Plan B in case of disaster, but that’s it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; biden; election2016; joebiden; president

1 posted on 10/05/2015 7:21:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

OMG! And endure 4 years of Gaff-O-Rama? I read some comments the other day in response to a letter to the editor concerning the hildebeast and all her attributes. The comment section showed a pretty clear picture of the mindless sycophants we’re dealing with. The level of delusion is mind boggling. Same thing applies to uncle bernie and jojo biden.


2 posted on 10/05/2015 7:25:52 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

RE: OMG! And endure 4 years of Gaff-O-Rama?

Endure? I’d Enjoy it. The more the merrier.


3 posted on 10/05/2015 7:27:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, like we don’t have enough people around the globe shaking their heads in dismay already? LOL! I can almost hear them mumbling under their breath, “Idiots!”


4 posted on 10/05/2015 7:31:30 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

If Joe, just being Joe, is going to dither like this on his personal decisions, how much would he dither when a REAL question of judgment comes up?

Joe Biden is largely untested on much of anything on a national or international basis, and he is not famous for either quick thinking, or the wit to delegate power to another to give adequate counsel in those instances where a quick decision is needed NOW. Even his canned answers are a little lagging, to the point of being rather low comedy of the burlesque variety.


5 posted on 10/05/2015 7:37:32 AM PDT by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe, make a decision? Not a chance.


6 posted on 10/05/2015 7:38:36 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: SeekAndFind

He just needs to finish pondering the great questions of life...

Such as “why do purple crayons not taste like grape?”


7 posted on 10/05/2015 7:43:08 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: SeekAndFind
Biden isn't undecided because of family tragedy. He's waiting for the DNC to give him permission to run against Hillary, which will only happen if/when they cut their losses with her and write her off as unelectable.

If Biden announces his candidacy this weekend, it basically means that the DNC has decided that Hillary is a liability and will shift its allegiance to Biden. He wouldn't dare opposed the DNC machine and all of its super-pacs if they're still 100% behind Hillary.

8 posted on 10/05/2015 7:43:57 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: rktman

Foreign dogs cheered the election and re-election of Obama. And they think we’re idiots for not electing the likes of Bernie Sanders or Kshama Sawant.


9 posted on 10/05/2015 8:00:22 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Either puke or get off your knees in front of the toilet, Joe.


10 posted on 10/05/2015 8:03:18 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Phlap

Biden versus Trump. Man, there ain’t enough popcorn in the world...


11 posted on 10/05/2015 9:39:22 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: SeekAndFind

“And there’s Uncle Joe.....he’s a movin kinda slow.”


12 posted on 10/06/2015 6:19:20 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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