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1 posted on 10/10/2015 9:36:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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[But when it comes to the party, no Republican should sabotage the leadership. ]

But nothing about “leadership sabotaging the party”


2 posted on 10/10/2015 9:40:50 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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Who Even Wants to Be House Speaker?

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Mark Cuban and Newt Gingrich, so far.


3 posted on 10/10/2015 9:44:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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Genesis The Mermaid is willing to serve as House Speaker as long as it doesn't interfere with her participation in the Ft. Lauderdale WinterFest Boat Parade where she will reign.


4 posted on 10/10/2015 9:47:06 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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MARSHA BLACKBURN!!


5 posted on 10/10/2015 9:48:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The only ones that don’t want to be speaker are the ones who want to run the party away from its base. The Republican party is quite unified. Just look at all their campaign adds from the last election. The problem is that the current leadership is running in a different direction from that. If they elect a leader who follows his own campaign ads, the Republicans in the House will be quite unified.


6 posted on 10/10/2015 9:48:53 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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"...the House Freedom Caucus, a rump of some 40 GOP members who have demanded outsize representation in the GOP caucus."

The problem is that far more GOP representatives espoused, ran on, and were elected/reelected based on the principles of the Freedom Caucus only to bail on them once voted into office. At issue here is not 40 GOP members, "demanding outsize representation"; rather, it's a much bigger number failing to provide the representation they promised to.

7 posted on 10/10/2015 9:48:54 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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So Tom, tell me again why the HFC has failed in its agenda?

Oh yeah...Boehner and his GOP-E cronies keep siding with Obama.

8 posted on 10/10/2015 9:50:47 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Trey Gowdy needs to get a spine and enter the race.


10 posted on 10/10/2015 9:51:19 AM PDT by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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A few million Conservatives who have watch what a complete mess of things the Establishment GOP has made of the job since 2010


11 posted on 10/10/2015 9:52:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Sometimes it’s hard to be the only adult in the room.


13 posted on 10/10/2015 9:53:24 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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Since the current Republicans in in the house & senate (with the exception of Senator Tom Cotton) have failed us, it makes no difference to me who is leader. When Trump is President he will (i.e. get what he wants for the American people). Or he’ll use the bully pulpit as he does now to level their miserable egos! I love the counter puncher!


14 posted on 10/10/2015 9:58:34 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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I think there is something to this, and I would like trucons or socons to respond.

They are stealing our country, and they want to ruin what is best in America. I believe it. I get it.

The mainstream Republicans are scum. I get it.

But...

The trucon/socon movement is now strong enough to defeat any Republican. They have grown in power to the point that they can block candidates for leadership positions in the House.

However - they are not yet strong enough to elect 218 Membersof Congress on their own. A lot of trucons/socons are acting as if, once they can block a GOPe candidate that the very large GOPe contingent or voter block will have no choice but to support the trucon/socon, but this is not the case.

The GOPe fear of and hatred for the trucon/socons is growing. Many if not most GOPe Members and voters are MUCH closer to the median Democrat than they are to any trucon/socon.

As the rebellion grows, it’s important to assess what it can and cannot achieve. Without a very substantial change in the composition of the House, they cannot (IMO) elect a Speaker and set an agenda.

In fact, it’s more likely (IMO) that the result will be a liberal Republican caucus of 35-60 Members who will vote with the Democrats to elect a Speaker and keep the free sh*t flowing.

Comments?


16 posted on 10/10/2015 9:59:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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It’s simple. The Liberals (of both parties) control Congress. Basically, they agree with 0bama (though there is some disagreement about the details). The people demand a Conservative Congress, so a number of “politicians” have managed to get themselves elected to Congress by lying about their Liberal beliefs. As long as Congress remains in the grip of Liberals, no Conservative will be allowed to be Speaker of the House, or to be Majority Leader in the Senate, and no Conservative program will be allowed to pass. QED.


17 posted on 10/10/2015 10:00:21 AM PDT by YHAOS
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Once it looks like conservatives might actually win, of course McClintock turns against them. Typical GOP-e hack.


18 posted on 10/10/2015 10:00:58 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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It can only stop other Republicans from winning 218 votes.

And that power right there can be used to force what is known in negotiations as "compromise". It would be nice if people who are supposed to be smart leaders knew what that was. It means that conservatives in Congress might not be able to get Louis Gohmert as the Speaker. It also means that progressives should not be able to get John Boehner or Kevin McCarthy. Someone in between, perhaps, someone who won't cave immediately, someone who agrees with the Hastert rule and lets the caucus decide, instead of joining the leftist wing of the party with the Democrats to pass Obama's agenda. That's all that is asked.

McClintock used to be better than that. The troubles in California in 1995 don't have anything to do with this. We had a majority of 1 vote, and the Dems kept picking off the most liberal members to take away that majority. Republicans have a HUGE majority, Dems can't get 40 of them to vote for Pelosi. When push comes to shove, all except for one or two will vote for whoever gets a majority in the caucus. If conservatives can't get a majority in the caucus, they can deny one to a leftist, and force a compromise. And then the winner will get all 247 votes when the formal vote is held.

McClintock must belong to the Boehner school of negotiation. This is exactly what Boehner does when caving in to Obama, he says we can't force him to give us everything, so we will get nothing. That's not how it works. Send him a bill and let him veto it, and then then negotiate with him on what you will let him have. Don't play that stupid government shutdown threat game.

19 posted on 10/10/2015 10:04:45 AM PDT by Defiant (I wouldn't have to mansplain if it weren't for all those wymidiots.)
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21 posted on 10/10/2015 10:05:36 AM PDT by DannyTN
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C'mon. The job comes with its own big wooden mallet.

Hard to resist.

30 posted on 10/10/2015 10:28:25 AM PDT by x
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Let’s make the left’s collective heads explode:

Sarah Palin!


35 posted on 10/10/2015 12:08:52 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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McCarthy, is a Californian. McClintlock losing that opportunity, is reason enough to oppose Dan Webster.
Dan Webster is a good man. Stick with him and the principles, not bullying, will return.


47 posted on 10/11/2015 10:15:40 AM PDT by mission9 (It is by the fruit ye shall know.)
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Let me know the Salary and the Perks and I’ll consider it.


51 posted on 10/11/2015 7:05:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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