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Trump takedown: Panicked establishment readies for war against GOP front-runner
Washington Examiner ^ | 10/19/15 | Byron York

Posted on 10/19/2015 6:59:50 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: HarleyLady27
He has a gun plan, and how he would work it;

What is his gun plan, please. I'd like to see a link if you have one. Thanks.

81 posted on 10/20/2015 4:31:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rbbeachkid
#2 - I am tired of them forcing me to defend Trump.

Exactly.

82 posted on 10/20/2015 4:54:07 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

IIRC, the Club for Growth ran a million bucks worth of negative ads on Trump in Iowa and then conducted their own push poll showing Trump slipping (which poll has since been negated by other polls).


83 posted on 10/20/2015 5:05:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Trump: As long as you are going to be thinking anyway...think big.)
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To: markomalley

-— It could. But a closer look at the 2007-2008 polls shows that Giuliani was almost always trailing in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. And of course, ignoring the early states killed his candidacy. Trump, on the other hand, is on top in those three states, plus Nevada — all the states that will vote first in February. His organization is growing. He is hiring smart operatives. The Giuliani analogy doesn’t apply. -—

I’m still hoping for Cruz, but I love how The Donald is shaking up the GOPe.

They’re crazy to think that Jeb will win if Trump goes down. He’ll still have to step over Carson, Rubio and Cruz.

It’s clear that Republicans don’t want another Bush.


84 posted on 10/20/2015 5:10:57 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: mazda77

“the wave riding his coat tails could be stunning.

With 34 Senate seats and all 435 Congressional on the down ballot, including further down, if just a swing of 25% is achieved, the change would be unthinkable.”

What I’m not seeing discussed is the down-ballot in the primaries. Trump voters are more likely to vote against all the incumbents on the ballot. The turnout for Trump could throw more RINOs out on primary day than anyone thought possible.


85 posted on 10/20/2015 5:34:21 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: markomalley

That doesn’t mean Republicans have made their peace with a Trump victory. On the contrary — some are preparing to do whatever it takes to bring him down. Which could lead to an extraordinary scenario in which GOP stalwarts go to war to destroy their own party’s likely nominee.

“Massive resistance,” was the answer. “He’s not a conservative.”


This is my opinion: I have come to like Trump because he is not ‘owned’ by the Chamber of Commerce or the GOPe. I voted for ‘conservatives’ only to have them ‘cave’ to the establishment or to the major donors that helped pay for their campaign.

Trump appears to be paying for most of his campaign as well as taking donations from the ‘small’ donors.


86 posted on 10/20/2015 5:45:10 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: doug from upland

Their ads of ‘he is not a conservative’ won’t work simply because he seems to be more of a conservative than the establishment candidates. They are just too stupid to see that. Let them waste their money.


87 posted on 10/20/2015 7:03:04 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Smokin' Joe

PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:

Enforce The Laws On The Books

We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release. Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.

Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns. We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.

Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

Fix Our Broken Mental Health System

Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.

All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.

And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.

We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.

Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners

GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.

BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.

NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves.


88 posted on 10/20/2015 7:25:03 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: mikey_hates_everything
“the GOP establishment came out of denial and realized Donald Trump might well become their party's nominee.”

Well then under the agreement they are all supposed to support him. It's obvious that they aren't. What happens when one party fails to live up to an agreement?

89 posted on 10/20/2015 7:31:01 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: HarleyLady27
Sometimes, you just have to take yes for an answer.

I swear if Jesus himself campaigned by walking on water they'd be whining he didn't know how to swim.

90 posted on 10/20/2015 8:50:40 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Thanks! That looks good!


91 posted on 10/20/2015 11:14:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley
"Massive resistance," was the answer. "He's not a conservative."

This describes the conservative view of Jeb to a T.

92 posted on 10/20/2015 11:16:01 AM PDT by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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To: wardaddy

Byron York has been making a slow journey to understanding, judging from his writings. He’s not quite there yet, but he has developed a pretty good eye for the shenanigans of the GOPe where Trump is concerned.


93 posted on 10/20/2015 11:20:28 AM PDT by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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To: matt1234

Not a penny’s worth.

Let’s say I believe that statement just as much as I believe an RNC statement declaring that Obama Care will be repealed in 24 business hours!


94 posted on 10/20/2015 11:24:56 AM PDT by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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To: MortMan

Good

The south has their fair share GOPe too


95 posted on 10/20/2015 11:58:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (The establishment needs destroying)
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To: Suz in AZ

Suz, as I said, the primaries for POTUS are long before those for down ballot posts. IN Florida, the filing deadline is the end of June and the Primary is in August. Plenty of time for the tails to grow for as many who want to catch it. I already know of a few people in my local area who have already laid plans.


96 posted on 10/20/2015 2:57:48 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

Most excellent to hear.


97 posted on 10/20/2015 3:00:54 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: markomalley

I’ve said it elsewhere...

You won’t believe how ugly the GOPe is going to get trying to take out Trump..

It’s going to make people heads spin and ask why haven’t they fought this hard against Obama? If they had maybe they would have gotten some support.

The argument he isn’t conservative isn’t going to fly because they haven’t been conservative themselves they sell themselves as conservative and then govern as liberal light.

The establishment has made their bed, they have no one to blame but themselves. The uglier they get trying to take him down the higher his polls will go. But it will get ugly.


98 posted on 10/21/2015 9:17:10 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: The Working Man

Exactly. The “he’s not conservative” won’t change people’s mind. They have voted for “conservatives” only to watch them roll over like lapdogs. Cruz is the only major republican I can name that I can say has consistently put up a fight.

Anyone attack on Trump as not conservative is easily countered by and what have any of these “conservatives” we have voted for done for us? Besides some lip service?

GOPe will not go down easy, but they are going down... And I guarantee any attack they launch will be easily countered and Trumps numbers will go up.


99 posted on 10/21/2015 9:26:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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