Posted on 10/21/2015 11:06:02 AM PDT by Perseverando
The highly influential Center for American Progress, widely considered the “idea factory” for the Obama administration, has drawn up a blueprint for presidential executive action on gun control that goes beyond media descriptions of the proposal being weighed by the White House.
Since the mass shooting in Roseburg, Oregon, earlier this month, it’s been widely reported that President Obama is considering circumventing Congress with executive action to tighten federal law on gun sales.
NBC News quoted administration officials saying Obama’s major gun-control proposal would set specific guidelines for who is legally defined as a licensed gun dealer, since all licensed dealers are required to conduct background checks before conducting any sales.
The proposal, NBC News reported, would set quotas on yearly gun sales for individuals to qualify as legally being “in the business” of selling guns once they sell a certain number and thus become subject to all laws for gun dealers.
The news agency quoted sources revealing the White House is considering setting the quota at 50 or 100 gun sales per year as the threshold to trigger the requirements, although the sources added the administration has not formally settled on a specific number.
The reports of an executive action focus on a federal law that requires anyone “engage[d] in the business” of “dealing in firearms” to obtain a federal firearms license from ATF and become a licensed gun dealer.
Every licensed gun dealer is then mandated to conduct background checks prior to completing each gun sale.
Currently, the federal statute defines those “in the business” of gun sales as follows:
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Sorry to hear that, you are part of the problem.
Gun laws/regulations are illegal
E.O. have no effect of Law
I want EVERYONE to circumvent ANY illegal edict of Fedzilla
My 4 worded response to anything from D.C.:
Shall NOT be infringed
followed up by: F U B O and F U C A (f* you Congressional Assclowns)
He will. He wants all the incidents and false flags to come to something for him.
“Of course, I’d also want Obama, Hillary, the entire DNC and the CAP, Brady, Moms and other organizations to come out and say that this is the last time they’ll ask for any more gun control, “
You trust them to NOT take an inch to a mile?
LMAO
If you understood anything about this you realize the real targets are the guys that rent a table at the gun show.
They want to ban all private sales and this is the incrementalism that will eventually get them there.
Cmon.
No. They get them if the gun dealer goes outof business.
No, those are only required for licensed dealers, right now.
I can sell you a gun, or you can sell me a gun, and neither of us has any obligation to report it to the feds.
When I see a real birth certificate then I still won’t respect you as president. But if you want my gun go pound sand you bloody stool of a Marxist.
I know it annoys the Mrs.
It is a true conundrum.
I am sure she purchases stuff in excess that you just scratch your head about. At least your stuff has an actual purpose.
Tru dat brother
The Supreme Court doesn't agree with you and the Constitution says they have a say in the matter.
If you understood anything about this you realize the real targets are the guys that rent a table at the gun show.
They want to ban all private sales and this is the incrementalism that will eventually get them there.
I've been to many a gun show and see the same sellers over and over, trying to sell their overpriced junk in many cases. If it's a side business for them, they should be licensed sellers, just like the real gun stores. It's an unfair business advantage for them compete on an unlevel playing field. A once per year exemption would still allow the occasional seller to set up and sell.
“Of course, I’d also want Obama, Hillary, the entire DNC and the CAP, Brady, Moms and other organizations to come out and say that this is the last time they’ll ask for any more gun control, “
You trust them to NOT take an inch to a mile?
That's exactly my point. Since I know they'd never do such a thing, I wouldn't agree with implementing the EO in the first place. As Secret_Agent_Man mentioned, it's all about incrementalism and to that I say "Not one inch!".
Report what?
Transfer of firearms in a sale between two private parties.
Scotus also ruled slavery was okay. Scotus has ruled its okay to take peoples private property and give it to other citizens if it is claimed it will help the local economy. They also created a right to abortion and gay marriage out of nothing.
This is a case where scotus gets it wrong. Shall not be infringed means just that. Only lawyers and politicians and tyrants look at that and say it says or means domething otherwise.
There can be no executive action on gun control. If so what is to stop the pResident from enacting executive action on any other right?
No. The forms are maintained by the dealer for twenty years. Then they can be destroyed. If a FFL goes out of business then the ATF gets the forms that the dealer is holding.
It is against Federal law for the ATF to use those 4473 Forms to create any type of data base (registry) that includes the buyers names.
Please cite the relevant article.
Please reference Dred Scott, Roe v. Wade, and Kelo where applicable....if you dare.
As for me, I will assert that "shall not be infringed" includes "infringed by the Supreme Court."
This could make a lot of banks and trust companies gun dealers. Many wills provide for institutional trustees or executors. The estate that’s transferred to such an entity often contains a substantial number of firearms. What if the number of firearms in all of those estates in the possession of an institutional trustee exceeds the magic minimum? Does that then make the XYZ Bank a firearms dealer that needs a FFL??
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