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Is this text of Obama executive action on guns?
WND ^ | October 20, 2015 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 10/21/2015 11:06:02 AM PDT by Perseverando

The highly influential Center for American Progress, widely considered the “idea factory” for the Obama administration, has drawn up a blueprint for presidential executive action on gun control that goes beyond media descriptions of the proposal being weighed by the White House.

Since the mass shooting in Roseburg, Oregon, earlier this month, it’s been widely reported that President Obama is considering circumventing Congress with executive action to tighten federal law on gun sales.

NBC News quoted administration officials saying Obama’s major gun-control proposal would set specific guidelines for who is legally defined as a licensed gun dealer, since all licensed dealers are required to conduct background checks before conducting any sales.

The proposal, NBC News reported, would set quotas on yearly gun sales for individuals to qualify as legally being “in the business” of selling guns once they sell a certain number and thus become subject to all laws for gun dealers.

The news agency quoted sources revealing the White House is considering setting the quota at 50 or 100 gun sales per year as the threshold to trigger the requirements, although the sources added the administration has not formally settled on a specific number.

The reports of an executive action focus on a federal law that requires anyone “engage[d] in the business” of “dealing in firearms” to obtain a federal firearms license from ATF and become a licensed gun dealer.

Every licensed gun dealer is then mandated to conduct background checks prior to completing each gun sale.

Currently, the federal statute defines those “in the business” of gun sales as follows:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Be careful. Here in the State of Washington they just passed a law that mandates a $25 fee and background check for any gun “transfers”. It was sold as what you are saying - selling a gun to a stranger (via gun shows, private sales, etc.) to keep them out of the hands of criminals.

The entire thing is 18 pages long. It prohibits me from letting my 20 year old son hold my gun (much less shoot it). It does allow that my spouse can hold and shoot it, as long as we are together at a regulated gun range.

Even giving it to a gunsmith requires the $25 fee. All of these are “transfers”, and spelled out in the 18 pages.

I’m not sure if anyone is following the law much. I do know that the gunsmiths are very careful now to only deal with people they know.


61 posted on 10/21/2015 2:41:42 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve seen an FFL send all types of manila folders to the ATF.
What’s in those? My tin-foil hat is on as you can see.

FFL friend of mine is calling it quits next January. #1 reason is the ATF and their unscheduled party-crashing. He can’t even really go on vacation since he never knows when they’ll show.


62 posted on 10/21/2015 2:43:17 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Boogieman

Like I said, report WHAT?


63 posted on 10/21/2015 3:10:30 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: 21twelve

Dude, I’m in CA. We’ve had that for many years, without some of the restrictions the new WA law has.

Do what I’ve done. Join the NRA, life member or better if you can afford it (I’m an Endowment Member). Join your Washington State affiliate group, as well. Don’t vote for ANY DEMOCRAT. Even supposedly Pro-2A Democrats get their arms twisted by the party leadership. Do not donate to the DNC or GOP. Make donations to individual candidates who strongly support your views.

Convert your anti-gun or neutral friends to gun enthusiasts by taking them shooting so they can appreciate the fun, safety and freedom it entails.

Teach your children how to be safe. If you can do it, get permission to take your childrens friends shooting, after teaching the safety.

Ignorance is one of our biggest enemies.


64 posted on 10/21/2015 3:13:00 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: kitchen

State laws can’t override the Constitution, and the states are bound by the 2nd Amendment too, so I don’t view those laws as valid, personally.

Whether one wishes to obey invalid laws or not, well that’s a matter for each of us to decide on their own I think.


65 posted on 10/21/2015 3:33:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

A wee tad difficult with a handgun, even with a laser sight.


66 posted on 10/21/2015 3:36:36 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

OK, call me stupid, or illiterate. I still don’t see the lawful ability of the SC to allow the infringement of a Constitutionally-protected right.

Perhaps you could highlight that.


67 posted on 10/21/2015 4:31:20 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
I'll save you some time:

If they can do it because they say they can do it, then there is effectively no bar to their doing it in other areas.

After all, the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Doesn't mention the Supreme Court, or forbid them from enjoining public observance of Ramadan, should they decide that they can do that as well, does it?

Some things just stay wrong no matter who says they are right, and vice versa.

68 posted on 10/21/2015 4:59:22 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: Perseverando

fta... The highly influential Center for American Progress
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LOL! The article begins with a joke!


69 posted on 10/21/2015 9:39:29 PM PDT by octex
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To: PATRIOT1876

I hope we get a REAL president who overturns all of these royal edicts.
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Cruz has repeatedly said he would cancel all EOs/EAs that are unconstitutional and unlawful.


70 posted on 10/21/2015 9:43:43 PM PDT by octex
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To: ExGeeEye

Do you know what infringe means? It means restrict. It doesn’t mean free from all procedure. Having to pass a background check doesn’t restrict you from buying a firearm, it just means you might have to jump through some hoops, but in the end you can still do it. You might also be limited as to what type of firearm you can buy, but you can buy something.


71 posted on 10/21/2015 10:28:01 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

If there is the possibility of refusal of permission, it is infringement.

If it involves the requirement to ask for permission, it is infringement.

If it involves any action of the State in restricting in any way the free access of free adult citizens to arms of their choice up to and including artillery, it is infringement.

The only Constitutional gun law is the one in the Constitution.

Period.


72 posted on 10/22/2015 3:06:05 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: libstripper
I'm sure you could modify one of these to suit your needs..................
73 posted on 10/22/2015 6:26:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: ExGeeEye
If there is the possibility of refusal of permission, it is infringement.

If it involves the requirement to ask for permission, it is infringement.

If it involves any action of the State in restricting in any way the free access of free adult citizens to arms of their choice up to and including artillery, it is infringement.

The only Constitutional gun law is the one in the Constitution.

Period.


Infringe means deny. It does not mean free of all impediments. Look it up. I suggest you take an unregistered NFA weapon to the local shooting range and call the ATF to let them know you're there. Let me know how the trial goes when you tell the judge that there's only the one gun law you recognize. I'd like to know what he says after he stops laughing.
74 posted on 10/22/2015 9:11:16 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
Being slightly less stupid than you think, the day I deliberately break an unconstitutional law is the day I fear the consequences of not breaking it more.

Won't stop me calling 'em like I see 'em. So far, the First Amendment is still-- mostly-- respected.

75 posted on 10/22/2015 1:28:39 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Except for the whole speech police crowd (professors, education administrator, most all teachers, and the professional offendee’s)


76 posted on 10/22/2015 1:57:44 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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