Posted on 10/27/2015 5:51:05 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Donald Trump made headlines this weekend by questioning fellow GOP candidate Ben Carson's Seventh-day Adventist faith -- literally.
"I'm Presbyterian," Trump said at a rally in Florida on Saturday. "Boy, that's down the middle of the road folks, in all fairness. I mean, Seventh-day Adventist, I don't know about. I just don't know about."
Carson, who was baptized into the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Detroit when he was 8 and earnestly committed himself to the church when he was 14, is perhaps the faith's most famous member. Trump later said that he wasn't trying to "send a dog whistle" to religious conservatives who might look askance at Adventist doctrine. "All I said was that I don't know about it," he told ABC.
Fair enough. A lot of Americans don't know much about the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The Protestant Christian denomination turned 150 years old in 2013, which makes it a relative newcomer on the religious scene. (This is year 5776 in Judaism, by contrast.) Many Adventists embrace their outsider status, calling themselves "God's peculiar people." But Carson, while acknowledging that people tend to ascribe "any weird thing" to Adventists, has played down the differences, saying dogmas and rituals are not his cup of nonalcoholic beverage. (Adventists don't drink or smoke.)
In any case, if you're like Trump and need a quick course on Adventism 101, here are three beliefs they share with mainstream Christians, followed by several unique to Seventh-day Adventists. One quick caveat: Not all of the 1 million Adventists in the United States (including Carson) and estimated 18 million worldwide ascribe to all of the church's beliefs in exactly the same way. Like all faiths, Adventists display a range of intellectual diversity.
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That right there says that Adventists don't believe in the Infallible Word of God because Jesus spoke often about Hell.
CNN seems to skip right over the belief that Jesus is actually an angel rather than the Son of God. That’s not a small thing, and pretty much takes SDA out of the Christian family.
http://www.bereanpublishers.com/facts-and-false-doctrines-of-the-seventh-day-adventist-church/
That’s right! They did skip right over that!
Read the Great Controversy Series.
You’ll come away knowing Ellen White was very much a believer in the Holy Trinity.
Adventists believe the world will be cleansed by hellfire. They believe the eternal punishment is not the burning any churning of an eternal flame, but once destroyed that person will never exist again.
The word eternal, in Hebrew means indeterminate time. It can unlimited, but not always. Jesus called the fires outside Jerusalem eternal, but are they burning now?
Thanks.
Trump identifies as a Presbyterian...
Is it OK to ask which Presbyterian group he identifies with?
Two major ones that are NOT in fellowship with one another.
PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF THE USA
PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF AMERICA.
The former has already thrown away the Bible and accepted abortion and gay marriage.
Which one is Trump affiliated with ?
The problem here is that your use of angel is singular in nature. You have defined it as a created being only. Adventists believe Christ is not a created being. The do not believe Michael is a created being.
As with all cults, they deny that Jesus the Nazarene is fully God and fully man. That is the essence of Christianity.
I always refer folks to C.S. Lewis’s Mere Christianity
Well, I wouldn’t get to far ahead of myself there.
He also kept the Seventh-Day Sabbath.
Now what was that about the infallible word of God?
Jesus said, keep my commandments. Mentioning some of them by name, it left no doubt he meant the Ten Commandments.
These issues IMO, are way off the beaten track. The church is not anti-U. S. and Carson is not a demon crazed whack job.
I won’t be voting for him. I am an SDA. That’s how whacked out we are, not even being loyal to our own fellow cult member. LOL
Folks, seriously...
Wrong, but other than that a great post.
As I posted on the last thread just like this one, the Catholic church recognizes SDA as being Christian. You could look it up.
Where does Christ do that? But as for the word "eternal" meaning something other than eternal, Christ often contrasts the "eternal" blessings of Christians in heaven with the eternal damnation of those in hell. If the latter is finite, using the same word, why isn't the former?
I say who cares, look at what we ended up with when we critized the Mormon!!!
Catholics also claim that the God of the Muslims and of the Jews who deny Christ is the "same" God that Christians worship, and that they have a part in God's "plan of salvation."
And when the Romanists aren't making claims like that, they're telling folks they're the one true church of God on Earth.
Catholicism is hardly credible in determining who is and isn't the people of God.
Hell is thrown into the lake of fire.
Jesus spoke of death, not eternal suffering. But, more importantly, he spoke of eternal life.
That said, My parents used to be SDA. My father is now a member of an SDA sect that believes the “popular SDA church” is the worst of all right now.
There is so much they try to teach that contradicts the bible that my dad and I used to have some, uh, animated discussions. It never got uncivil, though.
It’s a word, when used from Hebrew, that means an unmeasured time. It doesn’t have a single meaning. English is a literal language, that means exactly what it says. Hebrew is a conceptual or pictorial language.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 (Amplified)
14.For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again [as in fact He did], even so God [in this same way—by raising them from the dead] will bring with Him those [believers] who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15. For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep [in death]. 16. For the Lord Himself [Jesus] will come down from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the archangel [Micahel - NOT Jesus] and with the [blast of the] trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17. Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord!
Well, I can tell you that they don’t believe in eating meat. I was in one of their hospitals for a week as a kid with two broken arms, and I had “mock” this and “mock” that for every meal. I ended up with a rash from my stay, but they came in and prayed for me every night and they were on the whole good folks.
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