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In deepest rural Poland, politics is shaped by love of church … and hatred of Brussels
theguardian.com ^ | Saturday 24 October 2015 19.05 EDT | Alex Duval Smith in Kulesze Ko�›cielne

Posted on 10/29/2015 7:24:26 AM PDT by Trumpinator

Law and Justice party’s aggressive nationalism and strict Catholicism could reap dividends in crucial elections

The gigantic green-and-yellow tractor should be the pride and joy of Janusz Wnorowski’s humble farmyard. But the 57-year-old milk farmer associates the John Deere with the debt and bureaucracy that have visited him since Poland joined the European Union.

“Whom I vote for is a religious decision, not a political one,’’ he says, suggesting he will choose the ultra-conservative Law and Justice party of President Andrzej Duda. Tacitly endorsed by the powerful Roman Catholic Church, Law and Justice is seen in this village as a tool for Jesus Christ to give John Deere – and thus the EU – a good hiding.

Law and Justice may not win Sunday’s parliamentary and senate elections outright. But surveys suggest its rise will consolidate Poland’s shift to the right. It is expected to finish first, at least 10% ahead of the governing centrist Civic Platform. Law and Justice flirts with racism, homophobia and antisemitism. But in Kulesze Ko�›cielne, a village about 200km northeast of Warsaw, it is all about milk.

“Since we joined the EU in 2004, our government has not fought for Poland,’’ says Wnorowski, who has 95 cows. “All this,’’ he says, pointing to the John Deere and a range of alterations imposed by EU rules, “is unnecessary on our small farms.’’ One outbuilding carries an EU plaque, showing that it was built with a grant.

“We have received money, but we have also had to take out loans. Now people in Brussels are deciding that grain farmers should be better compensated for last summer’s drought than beef and milk farmers. It is nonsensical. Poland did not decide to impose sanctions on Russia, yet we have been the first to suffer the consequences of them.’’

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Hatred of debt capitalism is a long standing Catholic doctrine. Usury is still a sin in Catholic dogma - and no usury does not mean a large interest rate - it means any interest rate.

I studied in Europe a couple of decades ago (how time flies) and what most people here in the states would call EU socialism is actually EU bureaucracy in the service of finance capitalism like forcing small farmers to buy modern equipment on loans or be banned from selling products if they don't, etc.

1 posted on 10/29/2015 7:24:26 AM PDT by Trumpinator
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To: lodi90
It is nonsensical. Poland did not decide to impose sanctions on Russia, yet we have been the first to suffer the consequences of them.

Sorry, lodi....

2 posted on 10/29/2015 7:26:21 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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Russian tears are the sweetest tears.


3 posted on 10/29/2015 7:28:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Seems the ones crying are the other side....

Poland did not decide to impose sanctions on Russia, yet we have been the first to suffer the consequences of them.

4 posted on 10/29/2015 7:35:36 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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bfl


5 posted on 10/29/2015 7:41:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God works all things for the good for those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.)
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Here’s how it works: when a country imposes economic sanctions on another, certain segments of that country’s economy bear the cost. It should come as a surprise to anyone but a Russian sychophant trying to score points.


6 posted on 10/29/2015 7:41:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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should = should not

Russian tears are still the sweetest tears.

7 posted on 10/29/2015 7:42:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dfwgator

Ping.


8 posted on 10/29/2015 7:43:21 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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My analysis is that the implementation of Socialism always results in what you’re referring to as EU bureaucracy and others call ‘crony capitalism’.

A privileged elite controls the productive class to self enrich themselves and their “friends”, the highest bidder. The productive, increasingly penalized, become less productive by quitting, leaving, going underground, etc. The Socialists/bureaucracy grows and eventually runs out of other people’s money. Communism, chaos or revolution is the end result.

So, Socialism and bureaucracy may be different in theory, but, in the real world implementations, they are one in the same. Can you name a country where Socialism resulted in less bureaucracy- other than Cambodia?


9 posted on 10/29/2015 7:45:06 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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And in this case it cost the pro EU party that went with the Russian sanctions the election. The farmers voted against the Russian sanctions. So your narrative fails here.


10 posted on 10/29/2015 7:46:49 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Correction = Pro EU tears are the sweetest tears.


11 posted on 10/29/2015 7:47:33 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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I get what you are saying. But there is a difference. When I was in Europe as part of my higher education I was working in EU mandated privatization of govt owned industries.

So at the same time the EU was forcing an end to govt owned businesses they imposed taxes and regulations that pretty much hamstrung the privatized businesses so the end result is still a form of control.

12 posted on 10/29/2015 7:49:21 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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And for bonus points, you must mention George Soros. Do svidaniya.


13 posted on 10/29/2015 7:50:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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So at the same time the EU was forcing an end to govt owned businesses they imposed taxes and regulations that pretty much hamstrung the privatized businesses so the end result is still a form of control.

That's called 'Fascism'.

14 posted on 10/29/2015 7:52:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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It is not fascism. Honestly - not saying that to be confrontational. For a fictional example, the French govt owned a cheese maker. Under the pre EU rules, the cheese followed an old formula for how it was aged, stored, etc.

The EU makes the French govt sell the cheesemaker to private interests but then imposes on it regulations that force the cheesemaker to build new storage facilities, use certain kinds of trucks for delivery, etc. These rules can be anywhere from forcing workers not to smoke in the production area - something they did all the time before - to mandating bathroom breaks which would not have existed ironically in the old French owned model.

That is what I meant.

15 posted on 10/29/2015 7:57:04 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Boring.


16 posted on 10/29/2015 7:58:22 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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Most pro-Russian posters are. I’ve only met a couple who don’t toe the Kremlin line.


17 posted on 10/29/2015 7:59:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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How low energy of you.


18 posted on 10/29/2015 8:00:35 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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Sounds like even Stalin did not mess with these farmers as much as the EU has.


19 posted on 10/29/2015 8:01:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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From the article:


Kulesze Ko�›cielne, a farming community dating back to the 15th century, takes a bleak view of the future it believes is being shaped for it by the EU: the death of small farms. In a meeting room full of sports trophies, mayor Józef Grochowski, 60, describes an incredibly united village. “We stick together. We are all milk farmers or have been. Last year, we were the Polish village whose cows produced the highest amount of milk per cow.

“But now the rules have changed. If you produce too much milk, you are fined. One of our farmers faces certain ruin. He has to pay a fine of 600,000 złotys (£101,000). He is not the only one facing punishment. It is madness.’’


20 posted on 10/29/2015 8:02:05 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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