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it is a world war with no conventional boundaries or defined lines


2 posted on 10/31/2015 6:26:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: bert
"I demonstrate in the first place, that the state of men without civil society (which state we may properly call the state of nature) is nothing else but a mere war of all against all; and in that war all men have equal right unto all things."
-- Hobbes
3 posted on 10/31/2015 6:28:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Speak TRUZ to power / Tell the TRUZ / No more lies; we want the TRUZ.)
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To: bert

The Sinai is under the defined control of the Egyptian govt so the Russians should expect full cooperation in an investigation and a brisk security response by Egypt if required

However, it seems uncomfortably similar to the Ukrainian aircraft disaster and a plane load of highly level islamist mucka muckas was just downed in Libya in the past week or so


25 posted on 10/31/2015 6:41:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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1983: Soviet jet fighters intercept a Korean Airlines passenger flight in Russian airspace and shoot the plane down, killing 269 passengers and crewmembers. The incident dramatically increased tensions between the Soviet Union and the United States.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/korean-airlines-flight-shot-down-by-soviet-union


28 posted on 10/31/2015 6:43:51 AM PDT by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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"On 10 April 2010, a Tupolev Tu-154 aircraft of the Polish Air Force crashed near the city of Smolensk, Russia, killing all 96 people on board.

Among the victims were the President of Poland Lech Kaczynski and his wife Maria, the former President of Poland in exile Ryszard Kaczorowski, the chief of the Polish General Staff and other senior Polish military officers, the president of the National Bank of Poland, Polish Government officials, 18 members of the Polish Parliament, senior members of the Polish clergy and relatives of victims of the Katyn massacre.

The group was arriving from Warsaw to attend an event marking the 70th anniversary of the [Katyn] massacre, which took place not far from Smolensk."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash

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April 2014...

Did Putin Blow Up the Whole Polish Government in 2010?
A Second Look

A plane crash at Smolensk in Russia four years ago wiped out the Warsaw leadership. It used to be seen as an accident. Now, after Putin's games in Ukraine, people aren't so sure.

Four years ago this week, Polish President Lech Kaczynski was killed in a plane crash near the Katyn Forest in Russia where he was flying to honor the 22,000 Polish officers, lawyers, priests and professors slaughtered there by the Soviets 70 years before. Ninety-five other military, political and public figures including his wife died on that plane. One of the more heartbreaking details to emerge was that First Lady Maria Kaczynska's body could be identified only by her nail polish and the inscription inside her wedding ring.

Less than two years before the crash the late president had given a speech warning that if Russian aggression was not stopped in Georgia, which Russia had invaded, it would extend to Ukraine, the Baltics, and possibly Poland as well. "We are here to take up the fight," he said. And many Poles still believe that their president died in the cause of that effort. Physicist Kazimierz Nowaczyk is one of them. ..."

(BIG SNIP)

He makes the case at the link...

Did Putin Blow Up the Whole Polish Government in 2010? A Second Look:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/11/did-putin-blow-up-the-whole-polish-government-in-2010-a-second-look.html

31 posted on 10/31/2015 6:44:35 AM PDT by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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