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Hawaii’s first satellite launch set for Tuesday (Liftoff 4:30pm HAST/9:30pm EST)
SpaceFlightNow.com ^ | 3NOV2015 | Stephen Clark

Posted on 11/03/2015 5:39:12 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine

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To: Jack Hydrazine
What’s a boat drink?

Not Jimmy Buffet fan? I am not really, despise his politics, but he had some great tunes. Margaritaville, etc.

A boat drink is most any tropical libation of fruit juice and rum/whatevers..............

21 posted on 11/03/2015 8:02:54 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The cut footage is not a good sign.


22 posted on 11/03/2015 8:04:13 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

It was launched to the south.


23 posted on 11/03/2015 8:05:58 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Saw they said "southerly", makes sense, military owns most all the ocean SW of the island chain, easy to chase everyone out.

No trails to be seen. know what to look for.

24 posted on 11/03/2015 8:13:37 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

I think the launch azimuth was 94.7 degrees making it polar orbit but running east to west.


25 posted on 11/03/2015 8:27:47 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: doorgunner69

Here’s a launch video that was posted to GoogTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMegDZ_VFQ


26 posted on 11/03/2015 8:29:45 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: doorgunner69

Another launch video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i30zxnUFdNE


27 posted on 11/03/2015 8:31:58 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

From the on-board video it looks like there was a pitch-roll coupling problem that developed.

What is pitch-roll coupling?

Inertial Roll coupling

Also known as Pitch-Roll coupling or Yaw-Roll coupling, Inertial Roll coupling is a “resonant divergence in pitch (or yaw) when roll rate equals the lower of the pitch or yaw natural frequencies”, according to Reference 1. In other words, this term describes a phenomenon whereby dynamic instability of a rocket (or other flight vehicle) develops under certain flight conditions with potentially catastrophic consequences, if that vehicle has the mass and geometric configuration that makes it susceptible.

The concept of roll and pitch is shown in Figure 6. If a rocket rolls, it will rotate about its own principal axis, the line of least resistance, rather than the flight path (geometric axis), as illustrated in Figure 7. The position of the principal axis is determined by the particular placement of items of mass that make up the rocket. If the angular difference between the principal axis and the geometric axis is sufficiently large, and if the rocket rolls sufficiently quickly, the destabilizing moment from the inertial forces will overcome the stabilizing aerodynamic moment provided by the fins. The centrifugal force due to the roll will cause the nose and tail to try to swing out perpendicular to the rotation axis.The rocket will become directionally unstable, with the pitch angle continually diverging, developing a wobble or coning motion, to the point where the vehicle’s structural limit is exceeded, leading to break-up. In order for the rocket’s principal axis to be different than the geometric axis (dynamically unbalanced), the distribution of the various components that make up the mass of the rocket would have be uneven, with respect to the centreline of the rocket (geometric axis). Components of the rocket such as the fuselage, fins, nosecone, and motor are generally symmetrical about the rocket’s centreline axis, and would not contribute to dynamic imbalance. However, certain items of mass, typically payload items, may have a centre of gravity (CG) that is not in line with the centreline of the rocket. It is these items that offset the principal axis and lead to dynamic imbalance and the potential for inertial roll coupling.
http://www.nakka-rocketry.net/ep_lr7.html


28 posted on 11/03/2015 8:37:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Inertial coupling killed a few test pilots back in the early days from what I have read. Looks like it can still sneak up on you even in a rocket where you'd think thinks were all symmetric.

Sucks for the UH kids that put in all that work on Cubesats for the flight. I know the Cubesat thing was a huge deal at UH.

29 posted on 11/03/2015 9:16:24 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Aloha!


30 posted on 11/03/2015 9:18:35 PM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I think the launch azimuth was 94.7 degrees

Well, that IS 4.7° south of due east, so I suppose that could be called "southerly"?

No way I would ever see that from here, was hoping for a due south or SSE launch.

31 posted on 11/03/2015 9:19:17 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Meanwhile my countdown has over a year.


32 posted on 11/04/2015 4:48:16 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: doorgunner69

Update on the launch failure. I was correct about the pitch-roll problem it developed.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/11/super-strypi-spark-inaugural-launch/

I was incorrect it’s launch azimuth. It is actually 97.4 degrees per the same article above.

“The target orbit for Tuesday’s mission was a polar low Earth orbit with a perigee of 413 kilometres (257 statute miles; 223 nautical miles), an apogee of around 489 kilometres (304 miles, 264 nautical miles) and an inclination of 97.4 degrees.”

Keep in mind that orbital inclination (and in this case the launch azimuth is the same) defined as...

“the angle of the satellite’s orbital plane with respect to the Earth’s equatorial plane. Measure starting from due East on the equator, and trace an angle to the orbital plane on the side of the equator in which the satellite is travelling after it crosses. Inclinations always measure between 0 and 180 degrees. An orbit with an inclination between 0 and 90 degrees is considered prograde or direct (many astronomers prefer the latter term when it comes to natural satellites) and travels with the direction of the Earth’s rotation. An orbit with an inclination between 90 and 180 is retrograde and travels against the Earth’s rotation. A satellite with a 90 degree inclination is said to have a polarorbit, and does not have an east-west directional component.”
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/guest-blogs/jason-davis/3450.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

So when you see 97.4 degrees it means south of east.


33 posted on 11/04/2015 5:22:34 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: doorgunner69

They’ll get it right next time!


34 posted on 11/04/2015 5:24:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jane Long

Likewise!


35 posted on 11/04/2015 5:24:18 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: mountainlion

Countdown to?

Is it the final countdown?

Roll it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw


36 posted on 11/04/2015 5:25:15 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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I see the problem, it hit that street light.


37 posted on 11/04/2015 5:32:24 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Countdown to?

No Obama

38 posted on 11/04/2015 5:34:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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