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This Bizarre Rule In The GOP Primaries Could Doom Some MAJOR Frontrunners
Western Jouranlism ^ | November 4, 2015 | Jack Davis

Posted on 11/04/2015 5:26:14 PM PST by Mechanicos

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To: Behind Liberal Lines
That's half the problem. The other half is too many delegates being awarded to states which have little or no chance of voting GOP in November.

I've often advocated that states start with no more delegates than electoral votes. This would be about 1/5th of the delegates awarded. The next 1/5th would be awarded on the basis of numbers of congressman, senators, state legislatures, governors, etc. The final 3/5th would be based on electoral votes cast for the GOP in November during the last half dozen or so election cycles.

Yes, technically, this formula could mean that a small state like Wyoming could gt more delegates than one like Massachusetts. Unfair, you say? I'd agree, but unfair to Wyoming which consistently delivers three electoral votes to the GOP every cycle to zero for Massachusetts.

Want more delegates? Then deliver in November or, if you are split personality state like us in Pennsylvania, then split up your electoral votes like they do in Maine and Nebraska.

41 posted on 11/04/2015 11:12:30 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
delegates being awarded to states which have little or no chance of voting GOP in November

IIRC, this was also a problem in 1952, with regard to Repub delegates from southern states that were solidly Democrat at the time.

I think it was key to Eisenhower getting the nomination away from Taft. There was a big floor fight over it at the convention.

Henry Cabot Lodge II was instrumental in it, and later boasted in Vietnam (where he was ambassador) that he had no problem with rigging elections there, since he'd done it in the US.

42 posted on 11/04/2015 11:23:45 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG
1952 and were still stuck with that legacy? Meanwhile, the Democrat far left base turned the riots in Chicago in 1968 into rules changes to get their candidate nominated in 1972 and have been moving left ever since.

Meanwhile, we are stuck with a crowd who bitches about Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney and whoever is the RINO flavor of the cycle and have done NO MAJOR RULE CHANGES in the direction which I just suggested.

43 posted on 11/05/2015 12:23:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

I’m not upset about 1952. I think Eisenhower was a good president.

Interesting history is all.


44 posted on 11/05/2015 12:24:40 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: X-spurt

Often times it’s better to have a real democrat than a fake republican. Fake republican’s are hard to get rid of and they sap strength from the party. There was no way whatsoever I was ever going to vote for John McCain. So I wrote in a candidate. Problem solved, I voted for neither McCain nor Obama in either real or [your] imagined vote.


45 posted on 11/05/2015 12:46:23 AM PST by Fhios
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To: X-spurt
...refused to vote for the anti-nobama candidate...

You're a fool if you think there was an "anti-Obama" candidate.

Like I said, I voted for Thomas Jefferson. It was YOU who voted for some liberal guy! If you honestly think I'm to blame for the Kenyan's second term, you're ignorant. The Takers are to blame and you just can't admit it.

(Also, I'm in TX. Don't blame your Republican failure on me!) When a Conservative runs, they'll get my vote. You can keep handing your vote out like candy. We can see where that gets us...

46 posted on 11/05/2015 1:06:52 AM PST by NaturalScience
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To: Mechanicos; Norm Lenhart

GOP-e is at it again. It will be a selection, not an election.


47 posted on 11/05/2015 1:21:27 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: X-spurt
Like it or not. “I will not vote” is a vote for hitlery!

what dreck!

It is as close as an American can come to voting "None of the above."--and nothing else.

48 posted on 11/05/2015 1:46:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: X-spurt

Nobama was reelected by fraud.


49 posted on 11/05/2015 2:00:43 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Mechanicos; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


50 posted on 11/05/2015 2:10:08 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“Point being the process is rigged to insure that the candidate considered most palatable by the political class is selected.”

The last time they failed was with Reagan. Even then they
shoved a Bush down our throat. They are not going to let that
happen again. Their most important qualification is that
they control the candidate and the most popular way is
to only allow the ones who are easily or already
compromised. Nowadays with the system becoming more perverted
by the day it’s getting pretty easy to tell who is compromised and controlled.


51 posted on 11/05/2015 3:16:54 AM PST by Slambat
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To: zerosix

Remember that Trump agreed to “toe the line” with the Republican RINOe leadership as long as THEY WERE FAIR TO HIM.

This definitely “not fair” isn’t it? I think he is well aware of this and already has his legal team ready to pounce on the GOP when they don’t choose him as their candidate for President......WHICH THEY WILL CERTAINLY DO. THE “FIX” IS ALREADY IN!

He is no fool and expects this to happen and has planned for it.


52 posted on 11/05/2015 3:20:32 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Slambat

Yes. Unfortunately this knowledge doesn’t do us much good given the pervasiveness.

The logical approach is not to participate in the electoral farce. Instead we should be working outside the political realm doing things that will implement conservative ideas and values.


53 posted on 11/05/2015 3:21:59 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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To: Fhios

Yep! That “real democrat” you helped elect and probably reelect sure was better.

Even McLame would have been Night and Day better than nobama!

America thanks you.........


54 posted on 11/05/2015 5:29:34 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: NaturalScience

It was obvious that after the election, the sit at home or as you say voted for a 200 year dead President, were in hiding.

Now that years have past, somehow you think we forget who you handed America to on a silver platter and so its OK to stick your purist heads back up? Wrong! You failed our dear America when she needed you most.


55 posted on 11/05/2015 5:35:00 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: xzins

He has a huge army of supporters left over from his terms as governor, all hoping for more patronage and perks. They must be driving his candidacy. I don’t know anyone else who supports him.


56 posted on 11/05/2015 6:07:47 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Mechanicos

If Trump starts racking up 50%+ wins in states and the RNC tries to deny him, there will be trouble.


57 posted on 11/05/2015 10:48:58 AM PST by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: Mechanicos

People should lay off the “open primaries” issue. The GOP can’t change state laws on that. Furthermore, New York already has closed primaries, but a NY district is highlighted in the article as an example of the anti-conservative bias in the rules.

The bias comes from the delegate allocation rules, which the GOP could change — if it wanted to be fair to conservatives.


58 posted on 11/05/2015 11:48:18 AM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Eagle Forgotten

We will not lay off the Open Primary issue. We are guaranteed a Republican form of Government. If the GOP is going to represent us as a party then we want what we are supposed to have; not democrats in heavy vote fraud states (Which the GOP agreed in settlement to not investigate) picking our candidates for us.


59 posted on 11/05/2015 12:39:27 PM PST by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: Mechanicos

Yep winner take all, versus CD winner, etc. States make their own choice of how to allot
their delegates.

If anyone is interested in how their state allots the delegates here is a good layout.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/R-Alloc.phtml


60 posted on 11/05/2015 12:48:24 PM PST by deport
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