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To: GIdget2004
Wow, what a hit piece. After reading the article, Carson never claimed to have applied to West Point, and his story in both books is consistent with a casual conversation with Westmoreland where the General might have encouraged him to apply and with his grades and success in ROTC he probably would have earned an appointment, which is a full-ride but not technically a scholarship, I suppose.

I'm sure all subsequent posts will be measured and fair. LOL!

26 posted on 11/06/2015 8:42:17 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Agreed.

One damaging article in some blog does not make or break anyone’s career.

If however the whores in the media smell blood here and they do a total hit piece on Carson - then it could be bad.

For now - we should all refrain from panty wadding.


54 posted on 11/06/2015 8:48:10 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My older brother received an appointment to West Point and graduated,
as well, back about that same time frame.

It all started with a U.S. Senator from Mississippi.

It is a great honor to earn an appointment to West Point.
Carson dishonors those select few who are appointed each year.

Good riddance to Carson.


80 posted on 11/06/2015 8:53:09 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Have you read the accounts in both books you mention? I haven’t read his book to know what he said.


91 posted on 11/06/2015 8:54:46 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Tennessean4Bush
...and his story in both books is consistent with a casual conversation with Westmoreland where the General might have encouraged him to apply and with his grades and success in ROTC he probably would have earned an appointment, which is a full-ride but not technically a scholarship, I suppose.

It has already been reported in Business Insider that according to General Westmoreland's records, he did not have dinner with Carson on the day in question, and was in fact in Washington that day.

It doesn't mean Carson didn't have some sort of conversation with Westmoreland at some point, but the dinner angle looks kaput at this juncture.

I look for Carson to withdraw from the race no later than Sunday night, November 8th. (that's according to my Magic 8-Ball(c))
97 posted on 11/06/2015 8:56:29 AM PST by mkjessup ("Politics Ain't Beanbag" - Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
From the article:

"I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, we had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present,” he wrote. "More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt" - his high school ROTC director - "introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point."

More: "When presented with this evidence, Carson's campaign conceded the story was false."

98 posted on 11/06/2015 8:56:32 AM PST by Amntn
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To: Tennessean4Bush

In interviews he plainly said he met the General, the subject of West Point came up. Then he stated he was offered a scholarship to attend West Point and turned it down because he was interested in medicine. He told it as though he didn’t apply and they just offered him an education. I heard that with my own ears. He has told that story many times. He didn’t seem to realize that people accepted at West Point do not pay so there is no “scholarship” for anyone. Of course they do pay for their education by agreeing to serve in the Army, but no tuition.

The way he told that story put me off to begin with, to me he sounded like he thought he was too good for the Army or West Point and that is why he turned them down.

I had some serious interest in him early on, but his waffling on the 2nd Amendment and illegal immigration put me off before this came out.


188 posted on 11/06/2015 9:17:03 AM PST by Tammy8
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To: Tennessean4Bush
I agree. He was basically sure he would have got in with the help of the West Point folks. This article is a little too technical regarding exactness of speach.

He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors,” Bennett went on. “They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission. <\i>

205 posted on 11/06/2015 9:19:31 AM PST by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I don’t think the military academies do scholarships, do they? The implication is that their tuition is waived. I’m not aware that any cadet/airman/middie pays tuition. If anything, they might get a stipend.


230 posted on 11/06/2015 9:24:25 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The first accurate assessment on this thread (and I’m a Cruz supporter, btw).


237 posted on 11/06/2015 9:26:28 AM PST by daler
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Thank you. I had business opportunities in my life that I talk about but I had to turn down and never applied for because of family responsibilities, but that doesn’t make it not true.


294 posted on 11/06/2015 9:45:48 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Tennessean4Bush

“Wow, what a hit piece. After reading the article, Carson never claimed to have applied to West Point, and his story in both books is consistent with a casual conversation with Westmoreland where the General might have encouraged him to apply and with his grades and success in ROTC he probably would have earned an appointment, which is a full-ride but not technically a scholarship, I suppose.”

I agree, but his campaign failed him again by putting out that statement. Just like the pyramid grainary story, it would have been easy to overcome it but they doubled down on it. I mean he could have swatted both of those away easily but the campaign did not.


319 posted on 11/06/2015 9:56:01 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Why did the candidate’s campaign admit it then?


331 posted on 11/06/2015 9:58:40 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Tennessean4Bush

“MIGHT?”

You use the word “might” in your defense of Carson. Well, did he or didn’t he actually do the deed?

There is a hell of a difference between “might” and “did.”

“Did” is fact and “might” is simple conjure. The word “might” is a very poor descriptor of anything....period!


430 posted on 11/06/2015 11:21:49 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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