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Winning Afghanistan: Advice From a 21-Year-Old Soldier (Excellent Read)
Townhall.com ^ | November 7, 2015 | Joy Overbeck

Posted on 11/07/2015 10:30:48 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/07/2015 10:30:48 AM PST by Kaslin
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***”We are being handicapped by our own commander-in-chief who is so terrified a civilian may be hit...”***

I remember reading of the raid on Dieppe when during the shooting, a Frenchman popped out of a door and was immediately shot down by a Brit or Canadian.
I talked with a man who, operating in China, shot and killed a white Russian in WWII. There was not time to vet the people and see if they were trying to kill you or not. The White Russian did pull a gun before he was shot dead.

Such rules of war will get you killed but makes Obama’s followers feel so good.


2 posted on 11/07/2015 10:38:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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"...but if Allah wants it to happen, that bullet will somehow find its way into the heart of the enemy fighter.""

I don't get it. If the taliban have no problem killing our soldiers, how come the Afghan soldiers do. Aren't they the same people and believe the same thing? What's their problem, then.

3 posted on 11/07/2015 10:40:48 AM PST by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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The only way to win against an Islamic hellhole is to deislamize it. Short of deislamization, the sharia barbarians rule and jihad flourishes.

America had been on the side of the jihadists for the past 35 years.


4 posted on 11/07/2015 10:41:42 AM PST by sagar
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Yep the reason Obama is a Community Organizer(speech giver) ,he useless at everything else


5 posted on 11/07/2015 10:42:11 AM PST by butlerweave
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I mean, how come the Afghan soldiers have a problem with killing the enemy, the taliban (not our soldiers).


6 posted on 11/07/2015 10:42:24 AM PST by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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"The only way to win against an Islamic hellhole is to deislamize it."

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! That, and ONLY that, is the way to win over there!

7 posted on 11/07/2015 10:44:09 AM PST by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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Yep, “Hearts and Minds”, a proven winning strategy... Or not.


8 posted on 11/07/2015 10:46:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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It has gotten so violent and out of control over there that critical systems being installed to monitor Iran’s nuclear program have been shutdown. Of course, that is exactly what Obama and his primary handler, Valarie Jarrett, an Iranian citizen and muslim, demands.


9 posted on 11/07/2015 10:49:56 AM PST by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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“I’ll tell you this. All of us in the military can’t wait until we have another Commander in Chief.”

Hittlery?

Our poor beleaguered troops and half of our nation are living in hope that the pestilence of liberalism will be defeated. It will take an act of God.


10 posted on 11/07/2015 10:58:57 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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and you deislamize it by using the best tactical weapon ever conceived that we no longer have.

The Neutron Bomb.


11 posted on 11/07/2015 11:00:32 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Sorry, I disagree. You can never deislamize a culture 1000 years old. What you can do however is delegitimize the radical element. Embarrass them, mock them, humiliate them. Shoot them with bacon wrapped bullets and insist they don’t deserve a Muslim funeral.

Sometimes you have to fight fire with gasoline.


12 posted on 11/07/2015 11:03:33 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberalism is only successful if you allow it to be. To win, you have to fight back.)
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"The four months of basic training American troops go through before deploying is something we just can't do with the Afghan soldiers over there. Their culture won't allow it. In Basic, you're worn down, humiliated, all your independent spirit and your pride, your individualism as a person that's all stripped out of you. Then when there's nothing left of you, they build you up again. They give you your pride back, you get it all back. But you're a whole different person now; you're a warrior."

And here I thought that when we were "training an Afghan army" this is what we were doing. Silly me.

"Bring some of their best over here and put them through basic training, American-style. The whole enchilada. Then send them back to their country and put them in charge as their military's troop trainers."

Um, how about we send a few instructors over there? Of course, after training them like that, they'll probably revert or be considered apostate. Frankly, the whole thing is a lost cause after this much time and treasure. We've been over there long enough to raise a whole generation, and if we can't do it in that amount of time, we should just forget the whole thing.

13 posted on 11/07/2015 11:03:37 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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The rules of engagement are indeed criminal. But there is utterly, assuredly, no way possible to win in Afghanistan.
Their hillbilly tribal version of Islam assured they will always be the way they are.
better ROE will only give our kids a better chance in the game of whack a mole.

20 more years there and it would look exactly the same.


14 posted on 11/07/2015 11:11:22 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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fight to actually win....this shit goes back to korea...where they didnt fight to win, we are the greatest miliary (despite dumbass in the whitehut) in the world and would wipe out islamic terror in short order if we were allowed to do the job of the military: kill people and break things.

but we have been handcuffed for over sixty years from korea to vietnam to the first iraq war down to todays war against islamic dirtbags.....


15 posted on 11/07/2015 11:16:19 AM PST by raygunfan
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“Sorry, I disagree. You can never deislamize a culture 1000 years old.”

Iran in the 60s, even look at photos of life in Afghanistan in the 1960s. Both were western, no veils, they were free and happy. It can be done. But it won’t be.


16 posted on 11/07/2015 11:16:37 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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I mean, how come the Afghan soldiers have a problem with killing the enemy, the taliban (not our soldiers).

When a Muslim kills a fellow Muslim, like the Taliban, they are doing the work of Infidels.
When they kill an American soldier they are doing what Allah wants done. -Tom

17 posted on 11/07/2015 11:23:28 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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Iran in the 60s, even look at photos of life in Afghanistan in the 1960s. Both were western, no veils, they were free and happy. It can be done. But it won't be.

There was a post a few years ago showing through the years the graduating classes of the University of Cairo. In the 50's through the 70's western dress and smiling people. Not so much afterward.

18 posted on 11/07/2015 11:49:32 AM PST by broken_clock ( Cruz back to the future!)
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So that's what we need to do with the Afghans, he explained. Here's how: "Bring some of their best over here and put them through basic training, American-style. The whole enchilada. Then send them back to their country and put them in charge as their military's troop trainers."

How about we pull out, let them stew in their own juices, and nuke 'em from orbit if they cause any more trouble.

It's the only way to be sure.

19 posted on 11/07/2015 11:54:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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God bless you young warrior. From an old retired warrior.


20 posted on 11/07/2015 1:26:52 PM PST by armydawg505
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