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Putin tells Western leaders: Let's bury our differences and jointly strike at 'barbarian' ISIS
christiantoday.com ^ | Published 15 November 2015 | Hazel Torres

Posted on 11/15/2015 12:20:55 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: Duchess47
Putin is doing the heavy lifting with ISIS and asking for the help of the west

Russia moving in under the pretense of ridding the region of ISIS is like the Mafia moving to your neighborhood under the pretense of moving out a violent street gang, then setting up a permanent base there to do Mob "business".

Russia will grow wealthier, more powerful, more aggressive in their overall expansionist agenda (Eastern Europe, eventually elsewhere), and much more of a threat to the US and its allies throughout the region and the world.

Sure it's great IF they actually do get rid of ISIS (we shall see). But having a country like Russia step in and gain such huge strategic advantage over the US and its allies is nothing we should be cheering about.

If Obama was serious about wanting to take out ISIS, which I don't believe he ever was - I think him and Putin are actually in cahoots on this whole thing despite his and Kerry's public moans and groans about it, it might not ever have come to this. But then Russia would likely have come up with some other 'rationale' or excuse for moving into Syria and taking control of it, and ultimately the entire Middle East. Makes me wonder if ISIS was a KGB-like invention of the Russians, created to give them cover for expanding.

Putin has stated that he believes the demise of the (mass-murdering, communist [my words]) Soviet Union was the "worst geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century". He has also said he thinks Stalin deserves to have statues in his honor. He clearly seeks to restore the old Soviet Union, or something not too far different from it.

141 posted on 11/15/2015 7:57:18 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: GonzoII

ABSOLUTELY.

The Hillary/Jeb push for no-fly zone to protect unknown fighters simply encumbers Russia from taking the fight to ISIS.


142 posted on 11/15/2015 7:57:34 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: going hot

I suspect Obama has INTENTIONALLY been weak on ISIS in order that his Russian comrades have an excuse to move in and ultimately take over the Middle East. This despite his and John Fonda Kerry’s fake public objections. They huff and puff but will do nothing. Not because they don’t have the nerve but because they basically share the same new international order vision with Russia: weak US, strong Russia. Obama has bent over backwards helping Russia become stronger with the horrible-for-the-US missile defense and nuke deals he made with them.

Both Obama and Kerry were supporters of the Soviet Union. KGB/FSB Putin’s goal is to basically restore the Soviet Union. Only this time the empire will be larger and more powerful because it will include the Middle East with all of its valuable resources, which they will greatly benefit from and use to grow even stronger. Since 2005, Russia and the ChiComs have been holding joint war games in preparation for war with US and our NATO allies. All the while we have all of these dupes, dopes, and die-hard Putin supporters here cheering them on.


143 posted on 11/15/2015 7:58:06 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: Jim Robinson

We have to mount a campaign to support OPENLY our public figures, candidates and office holders and anyone else nearest to us who is willing to RESIST this insidious, suicidal resettlement ploy.

Obama is Muslim and hates America. We have to actively resist this FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION of our country.

It is Un-American to confine ourselves to the keyboard in endless discussions, and call no one, protest no one, be seen by no one, nor heard.

We deserve what we get, if we don’t snap out of this trance we are in!


144 posted on 11/15/2015 8:03:19 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: ETL

“Makes me wonder if ISIS was a KGB-like invention of the Russians, created to give them cover for expanding.”

I think a much better arguement can be made for the US creating ISIS and supporting them. As far as Russia going into Syria, I believe they have a treaty with Syria which allows this.

And it is a fact that we are supporting the “rebels” trying to overthrow Assad. Thank you Obama, Kerry and Clinton.


145 posted on 11/15/2015 8:25:15 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: ETL
Well, it is Sunday, and raining outside, so;

I suspect Obama has INTENTIONALLY been weak on ISIS in order that his Russian comrades have an excuse to move in and ultimately take over the Middle East.

Obama IS Isis. He is a muslim first, foremost, and to the last. Every thing he does is muslim first. He is not happy with Putting shooting his (zeros) buddies in the ME.

This despite his and John Fonda Kerrys fake public objections. They huff and puff but will do nothing.

They huff and puff because that is all they got. They are not plotting so much as they are simply at a loss for what to do when the lights are on them.

Not because they dont have the nerve but because they basically share the same new international order vision with Russia: weak US, strong Russia.

They wish weakness of the US regardless of what anyone else wants. That Russia wants strength is a coincidence, although Putin has no problem with that, per se.

Obama has bent over backwards helping Russia become stronger with the horrible-for-the-US missile defense and nuke deals he made with them.

Zeros goal is to make the US weaker, that Russia becomes stronger he could care less, but it is what it is when you lift up the one side of the see saw, the other side goes down.

Both Obama and Kerry were supporters of the Soviet Union.

Only because they were siocialists, and American puke progressives love the label, not considering what it entails. pavlovian to the core.

KGB/FSB Putins goal is to basically restore the Soviet Union. Only this time the empire will be larger and more powerful because it will include the Middle East with all of its valuable resources, which they will greatly benefit from and use to grow even stronger.

As opposed to zero, who wishes to dismantle this country limb from limb.

Since 2005, Russia and the ChiComs have been holding joint war games in preparation for war with US and our NATO allies.

War games are not to send a message to the three biggies. they, all three know full well what the other two are capable of. The games are for others who are looking.

All the while we have all of these dupes, dopes, and die-hard Putin supporters here cheering them on.

On a scale of 0 to 160, that's about a 75, quite average, even for you.

146 posted on 11/15/2015 8:30:16 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: ETL
Russia is also financing ultra-nationalist movements all across Europe... movements that will rise to power as a result of the migrant invasion and subsequent attacks.

Putin is an incredibly cunning man. He's making this global domination thing look easy.

147 posted on 11/15/2015 8:34:44 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: ETL
All the while we have all of these dupes, dopes, and die-hard Putin supporters here cheering them on.

Not just here, it's everywhere. I see it everyday in the people I talk to. Putin projects strength and masculinity, Obama projects limp-wristed weakness. Putin presents himself as a stout Christian defender, Obama presents himself a faithless, relativist mush.

Both images were carefully crafted to achieve precisely this result.

148 posted on 11/15/2015 8:50:26 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: GonzoII

They can bomb and kill ISIS all they want but in the end what are they going to do about the importation of Muslims into their country? Until that is stopped they will always have terror attacks.


149 posted on 11/15/2015 8:55:38 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: Jim Robinson
POWER HUDDLE today at sidelines of G20 in Antalya, Turkey....Putin and Obama spoke for around half an hour before they rejoined the rest of the leaders.


150 posted on 11/15/2015 8:57:20 AM PST by caww
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151 posted on 11/15/2015 9:03:56 AM PST by caww
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To: nikos1121

“This is why Trump should lead us. He would easily find common ground with Putin that would benefit both sides.”

Precisely. Trump once again is way ahead of the curve.


152 posted on 11/15/2015 9:05:58 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: caww
Body language by both in all three photos say they aren't mincing words and down to the business at hand....also no beverages or fuss around them. Interesting....


153 posted on 11/15/2015 9:06:43 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
Putin, explaining to "hussein" how he is going to wipe out isis whether "hussein" likes it or not.

I hate being dictated to by the Russians, but at the moment they are the only ones with the stomach to do what needs to be done.

154 posted on 11/15/2015 9:08:13 AM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: Candor7
Now being reported that Obama and President Putin agreed on the need for a Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political transition, which would be (significant)...proceeded by UN-mediated negotiations between the Syrian opposition and regime as well a ceasefire,".... the official told reporters after the leaders met on the sidelines of a G20 summit ...


155 posted on 11/15/2015 9:13:35 AM PST by caww
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To: Kakaze

Now being reported that Obama and President Putin agreed on the need for a Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political transition, which would be (significant)...proceeded by UN-mediated negotiations between the Syrian opposition and regime as well a ceasefire.


156 posted on 11/15/2015 9:15:02 AM PST by caww
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To: Kakaze

BTW....Putin’s also meeting with Cameron and Merkle....Putin wanted the key seat at the table on Syria. He’s got it.....


157 posted on 11/15/2015 9:19:15 AM PST by caww
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To: ETL; Southack
Why don’t you print it out and hang it over your bed? Seems you have a mad crush on KGB/FSB Putin.

Well, here's one of your "usual suspects", Southack.

Next time, let's see who can beat each other to "IBETL". LOL! :)

158 posted on 11/15/2015 9:22:46 AM PST by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: South40

LOL


159 posted on 11/15/2015 9:27:31 AM PST by NRx ( An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of Whiggery.)
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To: caww
Interesting photo as they line up for G20 photo.....


160 posted on 11/15/2015 9:30:33 AM PST by caww
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