Putin tells Western leaders: Let's bury our differences and jointly strike at 'barbarian' ISIS

christiantoday.com ^ | Published 15 November 2015 | Hazel Torres

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Europe is already communist.

[ETL]

From Aug 23, 2015:

"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the "Russian special services have controlled" the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.

In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html

[jimjohn]

Newsflash, everyone:

Russia has already been working with Western countries. You just won’t hear about it in U.S. media. I’ve give anecdotal proof shortly. But first:

Anyone wanna bet after France’s top brass saw the carnage in downtown Paris, someone high up didn’t say “Get Putin on the phone”? Think about it.

Now, let’s look at the timeline:

* Obama signs this illegal contract with Iran.

* Europe’s invasion is suddenly on a fast track (i.e., they start coming in from everywhere). That stupid German woman (for lack of a better term) even gives the green light.

* UN: Putin gets behind the podium, scolds America publicly for our middle east failures (read: arming instead of attacking Team Jihad), including asking the public question “... do you understand what you have done?”

sidebar note: how many people (including Russia) warned Europe what happen in Paris was coming due to letting all these people in?

* Word on the diplomatic street says Israel, Russia open channels regarding the common problem just as Russia says “we’re in”.

* The usurper-in-chief then brags about the size of his ‘coalition’, just as China, Egypt, and even Jordan joins in with Russia. Meanwhile, the idiots-on-the-Potomac start making claims that Russia isn’t really targeting ISIS, just protecting Assad.

* Note: say what you want about Russia, but here are two important facts: 1) Putin actually requested permission from the Legislature to go into Syria and 2) Russia asks the U.S. to join, share intel and get on the same page when they started. We rejected.

* At that point, you don’t think countries like Austria, Hungary, Latvia, Greece and Poland weren’t on the phone to Putin already? Of course they were. But lets continue...

* Russian plane gets blown out of the sky. Team Jihad claim responsibility. Hmmm... guess Russia was really hitting ISIS after all, huh? Probably enough proof to Europe that Russia is not all-in.

* Paris Friday Nov 13, along with threats of more coming. Reading the European news, they all have no problem tying the problem to the source. The current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue cant seem to get those nouns out of his mouth. No, he’s just got his head up the arse of the House of Saud - who by the way is helping bankroll this death cult, and gave a deadline for Syria’s Assad to leave - or else. (aren’t you glad we have democratic allies?)

- bottom line: With ALL of Europe and Asia, and Central Africa seeing a direct threat (oh, go talk to Kenya, Nigeria and neighboring countries about Team Jihad), everyone’s looking for leadership direction, commitment, and probably the unmentionable - weapons.

They are not getting any of that on this side of the Atlantic. Instead, we’re hoping French President Hollande can get all the blood washed off the street in time for that all-important “climate change summit”. Priorities, you understand. Ergo: “...Please hold for Mr. Putin. His red courtesy phone is very busy right about now...”

just my $.02

jimjohn - OUT.

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Aug 2015...

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Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran's Quds Force leader

September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com

As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran's Quds Force commander - their chief exporter of terror - and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ..."

The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran's proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ..."

Officials who have monitored the build-up say they've seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants - some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/
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Pro-Hezbollah Paper: Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah Form Alliance

Sept 23, 2015

A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. "The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon's Hezbollah as the fifth party,"

Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the "4+1 alliance", a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad's regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/22/report-russia-partners-with-hezbollah.html
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From Real Clear Politics, Sept 10, 2015...

"In a 2014 New Yorker interview, Obama said his goal was to create a 'new equilibrium' in the Middle East.

In the short run, at least, his signature diplomatic undertaking can be counted on to bring more violence to this volatile region.

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the [Obama-Putin Iran deal] agreement is formally known, provides the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism an infusion of somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 billion of unfrozen assets and a great deal more of continuing revenues as businesses and governments around the world rush to profit from oil-and-gas-rich Iran's reintegration into the world economy.

The agreement relaxes the international isolation of the Islamic Republic and ratifies Tehran's status as a nuclear threshold state. And it relieves restrictions on Iran's acquisition of weapons, including ballistic missiles. ..."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/10/iran_deal_throws_sparks_on_mideast_tinderbox_128034.html
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Trump: Iran Deal Requires U.S. Protecting Iran in Event of Israeli Strike

by Jacob Kornbluh
Sept 2, 2015

In a phone interview with CNN Tuesday evening, Trump claimed that there's "something in the Iran deal" that "people don't understand" saying if someone attacks Iran, "we have to come to their defense."

"Does that include Israel?" Trump asked. "And most people say yes, they don't have an exclusion for Israel. So if Israel attacks Iran, according to that deal, I believe, the way it reads, unless they have a codicil or they have something to it, that we have to fight with Iran against Israel." ..."

Trump was most probably referring to language highlighted by the opponents of the deal. On page 142, the deal includes a clause that states, "Co-operation through training and workshops to strengthen Iran's ability to protect against, and respond to nuclear security threats, including sabotage, as well as to enable effective and sustainable nuclear security and physical protection systems."

Washington-based Center for Security Policy asserted that Annex III appears "to commit the United States and other world powers to the defense of Iran's nuclear program."

http://jpupdates.com/2015/09/02/trump-iran-deal-requires-u-s-protecting-iran-in-event-of-israeli-strike/
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[Catholic Canadian]

No offence, but do you think the US is to be trusted, given that your leader is clearly a lunatic?

[jimjohn]

Sorry, not buying it.

Europe (and soon to be here) could have simply said “we’re not taking these invaders” and closed the door. instead, well.. see my post above.

Remember: Russia isn’t the one offering to build islamic military command centers (read: mosques) through out Europe for the invading foot soldiers.

[RedHeeler]

A couple of buddies, glad to have, the US finally under control.

[Netz]

Sounds like the Iranian Nuclear deal....there NEVER is true transparency or enforcement if things go wrong, learn from history.

[ETL]

"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"The demise of the Soviet Union was the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century'," Putin said in 2005.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11102.30640.0.0/asia/moscow-puts-the-soviet-squeeze-on-neighbor-nations
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"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism's crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100711090651/http://article.nationalreview.com/365528/forgetting-the-evils-of-communism/jonah-goldberg
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From 2014

Yushchenko, hero of Ukraine's Orange Revolution warns Europe that Putin won't stop at Crimea

by Matthew Schofield - McClatchy Foreign Staff
March 27, 2014

Many Ukrainians believe you need look no further than the face of Viktor Yushchenko to understand Russia's aggression against Ukraine.

Once smooth and ruggedly handsome, it still bears the scars from an assassination attempt when someone slipped dioxin into Yushchenko's food. ..."

Read more here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24765781.html#storylink=cpy
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OSCE says spots deadly Russian rocket system in Ukraine for first time
Reuters, via Yahoo News ^ | Oct 2, 2015 | Anton Zverev

MOSCOW (Reuters) - International monitors say they have spotted a new kind of Russian weapons system in rebel-held Ukraine this week, possible evidence of Moscow's continued interest in Ukraine even as it focuses on Syria.

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, which is monitoring a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine, reported that its monitors had seen a mobile TOS-1 'Buratino' weapons system for the first time.

The Buratino is equipped with thermobaric warheads which spread a flammable liquid around a target and then ignite it. It can destroy several city blocks in one strike and cause indiscriminate damage.

Only Russia produces the system and it was not exported to Ukraine before the conflict broke out, according to IHS Jane's Group and the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which track arms exports.

The OSCE's findings are embarrassing for the Kremlin, which has turned down its rhetoric on Ukraine and shifted attention to Syria, where it has begun air strikes. The report comes before President Vladimir Putin holds talks in Paris on Friday with the leaders of Germany, France and Ukraine on the peace process.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...

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"On 10 April 2010, a Tupolev Tu-154 aircraft of the Polish Air Force crashed near the city of Smolensk, Russia, killing all 96 people on board.

Among the victims were the President of Poland Lech Kaczynski and his wife Maria, the former President of Poland in exile Ryszard Kaczorowski, the chief of the Polish General Staff and other senior Polish military officers, the president of the National Bank of Poland, Polish Government officials, 18 members of the Polish Parliament, senior members of the Polish clergy and relatives of victims of the Katyn massacre.

The group was arriving from Warsaw to attend an event marking the 70th anniversary of the [Katyn] massacre, which took place not far from Smolensk."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash

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April 2014...

Did Putin Blow Up the Whole Polish Government in 2010?
A Second Look

A plane crash at Smolensk in Russia four years ago wiped out the Warsaw leadership. It used to be seen as an accident. Now, after Putin's games in Ukraine, people aren't so sure.

Four years ago this week, Polish President Lech Kaczynski was killed in a plane crash near the Katyn Forest in Russia where he was flying to honor the 22,000 Polish officers, lawyers, priests and professors slaughtered there by the Soviets 70 years before. Ninety-five other military, political and public figures including his wife died on that plane. One of the more heartbreaking details to emerge was that First Lady Maria Kaczynska's body could be identified only by her nail polish and the inscription inside her wedding ring.

Less than two years before the crash the late president had given a speech warning that if Russian aggression was not stopped in Georgia, which Russia had invaded, it would extend to Ukraine, the Baltics, and possibly Poland as well. "We are here to take up the fight," he said. And many Poles still believe that their president died in the cause of that effort. Physicist Kazimierz Nowaczyk is one of them. ..."

(BIG SNIP)

He makes his case at the link...

Did Putin Blow Up the Whole Polish Government in 2010? A Second Look:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/11/did-putin-blow-up-the-whole-polish-government-in-2010-a-second-look.html

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

I believe the last time we allied ourselves with the Kremlin we crushed the nazi pigs.

[Chickensoup]

Makes sense to me. Putin is a leader, and a coalition is needed.

[odds]

Your posts, among other things, suggest that the USA, since WW2, has not been able to dismantle Communism or Socialist countries - a prominent example being what used to be the USSR.

Moreover, your posts also suggest that the USA and its European allies have failed to stop the ongoing rise of Islam and the Islamists, since the (official) fall of the USSR in 1989 - not only in the Muslim world but also in the West.

To me your posts seem to imply a sad indictment of a series of failures on the part of the USA; often portraying Russia, Iran and perhaps China as bigger than Ben Hur.

Hope you have feasible solutions too.

[Chickensoup]

With or without the United States the European countries will pact with Russia. It is to their benefit to keep the energy flowing, and to Russia’s benefit to be paid. It is to their benefit to protect their cultures. All of them.

[mylife]

Here comes WWIII

Bring it

[Lopeover]

We agree to working with Russia. Europe can then send back the refugees from Syria.

[Sacajaweau]

Putin has said that before and Obama told him that Assad had to go.

[Netz]

The US has lost almost all it's cards under the current administration. Allies are angry & confused, enemies happy and rejoicing. The Russians and others know that when push comes to shove, the US will cower and back away, that is a given already so Putin knows the US + West are not serious so he is doing what he things he needs to do, alone.
The Ovomit administration is a known quantity now of a do nothing, bumbling former superpower...