It was painful.I used it in a debate with a few college students online,one of them was my Granddaughter.:) Mean grandmom.
I got into a discussion with my skull ‘O mush neice once. My mom was in the room.
At one point, she looked at my mother and said “grandma, make uncle Cyclotic stop arguing.”
My mom said “He’s not arguing, he’s answering your comment, you started it. “
She didn’t speak to me for years after that.