Posted on 11/20/2015 7:51:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Well, consider if you will Egypt, and Indonesia.
Both are Muslim with a substantial portion of the world’s population of Muslims but are not radical. As a matter of fact, in Egypt, the radicals were deposed and things seem to be getting along well.
In historical context, the current radicals can be viewed as a counter reformation to the evolution of Islam to cope with modern life in the crowded cities of the world that has taken place in say the last hundred years.
That is not to excuse the radicals that have no checks on the bounds of their rage
C’mon, Jim, you can’t be serious about quoting Koranic scripture to describe Islamic dogma. /brain-addled multi-cultural mode
Read the article...it’s in this.....plus some of the Paris news sites.
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
Obama wearing ring even before marriage.
Bill Warner, PhD: Why We Are Afraid: 1400 Years of Fear - English No Sub-titles
The video of the entire event is here but I couldn’t tell you where that particular comment from Luntz is.
http://presidentialfamilyforum.com/watch/
There are no “moderate” Muslims. There are only Muslims who take Islam seriously, and those who don’t (non-believing Muslim-only-by-ethnicity).
But even with the non-practicing Muslim, there is always the danger that he might decide to go back to Allah.
I’m done with the debate and ready to kill em all and let God sort them out, we did it to the Japanese and the Germans and that is how we stopped their aggression then, and that is how we should do it again....kill until they give up their nonsense.
The crusades are on again.
We need to kick the Muzzies out and shut down the mosques and get on with life as a Judeo Christian nation. Anybody who does not like it can move to France. :-)
The problem with the "inner struggle" interpretation, is that it is based on a hadith (quote from Mohammad) which Sunni scholars unanimously reject as bogus.
Indeed, as while true Christians deplore and distance themselves from serious and often bloody aberrations of Christian faith, we see little voice from "moderate Islam" against the sppsdly aberrant bloody Islam. For the reality is that due to the many exhortations to religious violence and bloody Jihad, "radical Islam" can well defend itself as being "true Islam," esp. in the light of Muhammad's application, against its moderate counterpart, if such would even contend with them on this.
At best the lack of context in the Qur'an does not provide what is needed to relegate such to merely self-defense, such as protecting innocent life, while at worse it supports ISIS type conquests, which is more in line with post-Meccan Muhammad ("the more peaceful, tolerant verses in the Qur'an tend to be earlier, reflecting Muhammad's move from leader of a peaceful minority sect at Mecca to political supremacy and conquest at Medina."ThirdWay, Sep 2005, p.11) .
After his migration to Medina, Muhammad's attitude towards Christians and Jews changed. Norman Stillman states:[8]
During this fateful time, fraught with tension after the Hijra [migration to Medina], when Muhammad encountered contradiction, ridicule and rejection from the Jewish scholars in Medina, he came to adopt a radically more negative view of the people of the Book who had received earlier scriptures. -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_Medina
The Qur'an both contradicts the earlier revelation it claims to be an extension of, and also is in contrast with the Bible, as regards the latter's extensive historical narratives and detailed legislative promulgations, and theological teachings, which provide contexts for wars as well as a clear theology which clearly does not support either the church ruling over those without, or using the sword of men to silence its theological enemies, or to execute retaliation against its physical persecutors.
Yet the state can indirectly support religion, and in fact in the US esp. it cannot help but do so as its moral laws and ideology reflected both the religious beliefs of its Founders overall, and of the people.
But such cannot mandate belief, as per theocracies and especially based upon the premise that its leaders or supreme court cannot err, in cultic faiths and "political religion.
But as "our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people,"( John Adams) and is subject to interpretation by courts, then as the people largely forsake the God of the Bible and the Spirit of Christ, then they elect mislead and deceptive souls. who in turn appoint judges who do not interpret Constitution according to what the Founder's meant, but after their own heart.
Government by the people, for the devil. Let the righteous arise instead.
They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. (Hosea 8:4)
I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. (Hosea 8:12)
Thank you caww on both links
After awhile I went exploring the twitter world and found some pics and such, and peeps complaining about how they ransacked the mosque and knocked their books on the floor, and would they do that to a church of the kkk.
They even claim that those Paris terrorists rarely or never even attended a mosque, they were just regular criminals and that the mastermind of the Paris attack had attended “Catholic school”.
That’s the mentality these days.
I call it “perpitudical victim-hood” ... yea I made that word up. It’s a combo of perpetrator and attitude.
https://twitter.com/search?q=paris%20raid%20mosque&src=typd
Thanks again caww
Glad you posted that, Jim. I believe that also.
Muslims who claim to be peaceful are collaborators. They would never turn a terrorist in or speak against one.
I have been abused, called a racist, raked over the coals by liberals on Facebook because I neither like nor trust so-called peaceful Muslims.
Peaceful Muslims : a mythical race of beings believed in and worshipped by liberals.
In WWII we called them ‘fellow travelers.’
There is no such thing as a “moderate” muslim. There are only muslims. If you do not believe it read their book. It tells them what to do regarding infidels. If they do not do it, they, themselves, can be killed as apostates.
“just another Jihadists using a Mosque and it’s members to recruit and fund Jihadists”
- exactly!
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