"These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it."
So my take is that there is no such thing as a "moderate muslim".
“Moderate” muslims pave the way for jihad. Bringing in the Caliphate cannot be denied by any muslim for any reason. If you aren’t doing violent jihad, then you are practicing jihad by other means, anytime, anyhere. To do otherwise is to become apostate- a fate worse than being an infidel.
Moderate muslims are people who do good in spite of their religion’s teachings.
French counter-terrorism officers 'RAIDED A MOSQUE' in the port city of Brest at 3.30am today! (It's about time!).... the first time that a mosque has been targeted since the attacks a week ago....It went on for two-and-a-half hours, as police were also seen swarming into the nearby home of the mosque's 'radical Imam Rachid Abou Houdeyfa....raided while he was there....
There is only one “is” in islam and “it is what it is”.
There is no in between to it and those who say there is, are willfully ignorant or just straight up lying.
Just look at the fruit of that “tree of islam”.
It is rotten to the core, and yea... some will tell you that those extremists don’t represent the “true islam”. Bull malarkey.
If you think some branches of that tree are misguided, then just go and read the lines of that tree, because those extremists are doing exactly what the lines of that tree said to do in that “killing manual” that each and everyone of them follow.
Milder muslims are just kidding themselves by picking out the early milder meccan verses and forgetting those later violent medina verses that abrogate and replace those so-called mild ones.
My neighbor was always telling me how wonderful islam is and how their “profit” even married a jewish lady. I told her yea... after he just got done slaughtering her father, her uncles, her brothers, and every male child above the age of puberty.
You know what her response was?
Well... they must have done something wrong.
I said yea... they rejected islam.
I refuse to delude myself with what talking heads say.
I see the nature of this “beast of slam” and it is straight from the pits of hell ... pffttt.
Ferdinand and Isabella had the right plan in the years ramping up to 1492.
It was not until the gift of the restored Greek Bible text through the researches of that rebel Catholic, Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus, that brought Christian reason back into practice; and with it, the propagation of The Faith by preaching the Gospel and practical application of it through reliance on the authority of the Holy Scriptures alone.
From that rebirth of New Testament principles came also the congregational form of church polity, and eventually the republican democracy vested in our representatives by the Constitution. The systems of statist religion, whether Islamic or other, cannot coexist with the model supplied by America's Founding Fathers, but must wipe it out.
And that is why we must reject further diluting what remains of our already-tainted ideals by refusing immigration or nurturing of Islamists who will become influential, policy-making, freedom-destroying voters.
Jim,
There is no possible correct answer to those questions, for any person(s) born into a Muslim family/society/nation or for any person forced into close proximity of same.
The penalty for dissent against Islamic rule, always includes threats of certain death, for any who would dare to say NO, and become open apostates.
And the death threats/actions are almost always carried out by close friends and family members, seeking to save themselves.
Islam is not a theology, it is merely a deranged death cult.
“Moderate” muslims are apostate. We should encourage them.
Yes they do believe all of the above. Keep in mind, it's what they've been taught most of their entire lives. Smarter and basically decent Muslims can and have been converted to Christianity. If a convert is discovered in a Muslim controlled country and sometimes Muslim pockets in Western countries, where it's a capital crime to leave Islam, they can and have been executed by the thousands.
If so, why would they be considered "moderate"...
Looks to me like they are considered "moderate" in the west if they haven't killed, maimed, or raped non-Muslim women in support of Islam. Reasons vary - perhaps they aren't that dedicated to this cult, or they don't have the heart for committing violence. But even moderates believe in other parts of the Quran, sharia law, jihad, infidels, dhimmi, ...
... and why should any of them be allowed into our country under any circumstances whatsoever?
I don't know about not allowing "any of them" in the country. Some may be converted and make great citizens. I do believe they shouldn't be allowed to practice Islam anymore than Nazis should be allowed to practice Nazism. Neither are an actual "Religion". Both are murderous, destructive cults and freedom of religion shouldn't apply here, nor apply to any cult which seeks the destruction of others who refuse to participate in their evil and abominations against God. So since the world doesn't tolerate Nazism, why should the world tolerate Islam, a cult far worse.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
We who do wrestle with these need a plan!
There is no moderate or radical moslem, all the same. Moslem/islam is Satan’s followers.
They’re all extreme.
They want us dead, to be good Muslims or to become their slaves.
There is no freedom under Sharia and under Islam.
Everything is decreed by Allah and man cannot change his fate.
The word Islam means “submission.”
It values are antithetical to the values of the European Enlightenment and to our values.
Its an inimical anti-American philosophy.
I get sick at the halal excuses people make for Islam. There is no radical Islam, they all believe the same thing.
The difference between the jihadis and the rest of them is over how much faster to subjugate us.
People are in denial about the true nature of Islam - about its totalitarian identity just as they were in denial about the evils of Communism and Nazism.
Do we want more of them here? My answer is a flat unequivocal “no” - if we wish to preserve America and the freedoms we enjoy.
Jihad is the Eucharist of Islam. If a Moslem does not partake of jihad, then they are not a Moslem in good standing.
All terrorists are moderate Muslims, they drink, steal, rape, etc....that’s not a religious Muslim.
Why? Because Jihad is guaranteed way to ascend to heaven regardless of your sins.
So when someone tells you they are moderate Muslims, BE CONCERNED!! THOSE ARE THE TERRORISTS!!!
Answer: Yes.
Well, consider if you will Egypt, and Indonesia.
Both are Muslim with a substantial portion of the world’s population of Muslims but are not radical. As a matter of fact, in Egypt, the radicals were deposed and things seem to be getting along well.
In historical context, the current radicals can be viewed as a counter reformation to the evolution of Islam to cope with modern life in the crowded cities of the world that has taken place in say the last hundred years.
That is not to excuse the radicals that have no checks on the bounds of their rage
C’mon, Jim, you can’t be serious about quoting Koranic scripture to describe Islamic dogma. /brain-addled multi-cultural mode