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To: D-fendr
When folks post to this forum, they are putting their reputation on the line.  Others can see what they are saying and judge for themselves what is up.

You have come to this thread and lied five times about Trump policy regarding universal health care.

In two of those posts, you posted a link to an article that destroys your charges.

01: 29
02: 37  exposes the lie in and of itself, see below
03: 56
04: 74
05: 81  exposes the lie in and of itself, see below

Here't the pertinant part of that article:

Transcript of interview of Trump by Scott Pelley  LINK  transcript down below

Scott Pelley: What's your plan for Obamacare?

Donald Trump: Obamacare's going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what's going on with premiums where they're up 45, 50, 55 percent.

Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

Donald Trump: There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private." But--

Scott Pelley: Universal health care?  (note that Trump does not advocate for Universal Health Care at all in response)

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of how?

Donald Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything. (this is the private sector insured)

This is the furtherst thing from single payer Obamacare.

Trump does not support or advocate for single payer universal health care.

Scott Pelley asks Trump if he supports it, and Trump responds with private sector solutions.

A new way of covering the uninsured will be determined, but the government has been paying the bills of the uninsured.  He wants to find a better low cost way to do so.

Other than that it's private sector and expanded competition.

This is not universal health care and you know it.

362 posted on 11/21/2015 10:19:10 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m really not into flame wars, so the whole attributing motives and ‘you’re lying’ bit is wasted on me. We disagree.

I think your interpretation of Trumps interview is tortured and dissembling of Trump’s statements and positions, though his thinking is so scattered it’s often time consuming to pin him down on just what his plans - if any coherent one exist.

It is quite clear that Trump’s solution is very similar to Obamacare, and that he supports universal government-paid-for heathcare.

>>> “Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say..”

Yean, because it is universal healthcare with an individual mandate.

>>Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it.

Government-paid-for universal healthcare. He claims it will be different and private and work because we’ll be so rich. Poorly thought out sloganeering.

But when you get down to the basics of what he supports, it’s still Government-paid-for universal healthcare.


462 posted on 11/21/2015 10:17:57 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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