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To: D-fendr

I guess what disturbs me is when you say Trump advocates universal health care.

He doesn’t. When I took the trouble to explain to you that he didn’t, and even explained what universal health care is so you would understand that he didn’t, you went right ahead and called it universal health care.

Once you know, and you repeat it anyway, isn’t that an untruth?

We’ve got a guy on the forum that posts a chart that gives Trump a bad mark on the Second Amendment.

Trump has put out a position paper on the Second Amendment which has been widely applauded. I and others explained that to him. He continues to post that dishonest chart.

Trump the other day said he wished all conceal carry permit holders would carry.

None the less, this guy still posts the chart that depicts Trump weak on the Second Amendment.

That is dishonest.

I don’t see Trump people being dishonest about the other candidates.

I do see Cruz people being dishonest about Trump daily.


477 posted on 11/21/2015 11:19:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’ll reply to this post as soon as I can; hopefully tomorrow.

God bless and good night...


479 posted on 11/21/2015 11:26:12 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m sorry to be so late on following up on this. I had a medical condition that kept me under a bit.

The thread seems dead, so I’ll be brief and summarize:

I’m arguing that Trump is for government-paid for universal healthcare. You’re arguing that he isn’t. My points are:

1) He says things both ways: he supports single-payer, universal, he supports private sector solutions.
2) His support for universal, single payer, Hillary-care goes back further than his private sector support.
3) His support for government-paid for universal healthcare is as recent as the 60 minutes interview I posted.
4) In which he also supports private sector..
5) Which we both know is incompatible with universal, single-payer, government-funded, etc.
6) Trump’s policy is inconsistent, self-contradicting.
7) He says whatever he thinks people want to hear and changes with the winds.
8) As evidenced by his position on many other issues: gun-control, Syria/Russia/ISIS, abortion, Obama, the Clintons...
9) Which comes back to other of my points: he lacks integrity and is not a conservative.

Sorry for my delay in response and hope all is well with you.


495 posted on 12/29/2015 11:00:35 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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