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Should we scrub all memorials to Woodrow Wilson?
CNN ^ | 11/20/2015 | William R. Keylor

Posted on 11/21/2015 9:52:24 AM PST by celmak

On the 100th anniversary of President Woodrow Wilson's inauguration in 2013 I wrote an op-ed published in the Richmond Post-Dispatch reminding its readers of the retrograde racial views of our 28th president that few Americans were aware of (except for historians of the Wilson presidency who have mentioned it in their works). Later, professor Randy Barnett of the Georgetown University Law Center quoted extensively from my article to call for the removal of Wilson's name from all public buildings in the country.

The issue of Wilson's racial views and policies then virtually disappeared from the public discourse until students at Princeton University occupied the president's office two days ago and demanded that all references to the university's most famous faculty member and President be erased from the campus. As of this writing, the university has agreed to consider the renaming of buildings and organizations at Princeton that bear Wilson's name.

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To: Red Badger

Never be OK with Marxist ideology.

To erase history is only so it can be rewritten into a false reality. Control of ideas (history) give you the power to control attitudes and beliefs, esp. of the children. Marxism tears down and divides and creates ignorant children who don’t know history and can’t even process facts-—because everything is a Big Lie.

We have to teach children a Christian worldview— to give dignity to the office of President—even if the person is like that thing we have now. The design of our political system was brilliant-—but now it is unconstitutionally used-—as with Wilson. Everybody makes mistakes, and we have to give people the benefit of the doubt-—God will judge—we can’t know his heart.

Wilson, as much as I think he was truly an evil man, was the President of the USA, and should be honored for that fact alone-—but his faults should never be sugar-coated. We should LEARN by his evil “mistakes”-—like getting rid of the Fed.

Same with Margaret Sanger-—Why isn’t she vilified?????? We promote evil and sodomy in our so-called “Justice” (virtue) System (based on Christian Ethics) and YET-—we allow her attitudes (kill the poor minorities and unfit) to be FUNDED by taxpayer money.....Now, that is just evil “law”.

Evil “law” is “null and void” by definition (Justice Marshall).

As Cicero knew-—without “Just Laws” civil society will collapse. We are seeing it-—with Wilson and Justice Holmes-—our whole legal “system” morphed into a “special” protection racket for the bankers and fat cats to get filthy rich at the expense of the middle class. They took control over textbooks then too-—which has led to generations of “sheeple”-—menally ill and addicted populace to bread and circuses-—dog and pony shows to waste our precious time and keep us from truth/family/unity.

Have you ever looked at the medicine cabinet of the people over 50——it is a sick, sick, dying culture. We love our “fun” and “pleasures” and can’t be bothered with creating Life and dedicating our lives to God’s Plan and the future (children). Bathed in Malthusian/Darwinian/Marxist ideology since the 30s. Nihilism.

Ideas Matter. History Matters. You have to KNOW history to understand why things are like they are today-—and why people “think” like they do today.

Otherwise, your “thinking” is not coherent if you don’t have knowledge of the past-—it is like having a tribal mind-—ignorant and easily managed and controlled. Wisdom is essential for Freedom

Common Core (btw) is all about destroying virtue/relationships (hate betw. all “groups”) and creating little tribal minds——no coherent understanding of anything abstract and hate for the “Other”——so you remain little zombies of the corporations with no flourishing long term relationship—like family.

The Natural Family is the target of Marxism-—can’t have a mother/father paradigm when the State is god-— because children will be exposed to the Truth of Natural Laws, understand male/female interactions——that which gave Newton and the Founders the ability to create Modern Science and the Age of Reason and the US Constitution-—Individuality-—can’t exist in the socialist, collective cultures-—got to be able to Sangerize the useless eaters. And these Malthusians want billions killed-—just not their families-—just yours.


41 posted on 11/21/2015 11:10:30 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: celmak

I remember when Wilson was still a Democrat poster child and hero, the first advancer of the socialist progressive state.


42 posted on 11/21/2015 11:12:20 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: celmak

Well, if we’re being consistent. He was the most virulent racist to occupy the White House, at least until this president.

Yes, worse than that racist LBJ.


43 posted on 11/21/2015 11:12:46 AM PST by TBP (Nous sommes tout Francais.)
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To: Leaning Right

The Big Switch. It would be funny if there was not in fact a switch over time. My memory is too Southern-heavy, as the exchange of talking points is mostly that of seeing southern democrats drop their conservatism in the 1950s. When did blacks switch ... during the Depression as FDR promised what the republicans of the 1920s deprived them of? But that’s a change of electorate, not of the parties.

It’s a good question.


44 posted on 11/21/2015 11:13:26 AM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Not a big fan of Wilson, but this crap isn’t the reason to hate him.”

I love it. Demonize the Stars and Bars, then eat their own.
Good.


45 posted on 11/21/2015 11:15:01 AM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: celmak

Let’s start by dismantling the IRS and the Federal Reserve!


46 posted on 11/21/2015 11:16:09 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Theodore R.
Didn’t Taft beat him to the punch on that!

Yes, Taft had much to do about it; but Wilson made sure it became a permanent law.

47 posted on 11/21/2015 11:36:50 AM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: taterjay

Our guide lines are History. Our Constitution and the intentions and basic principles it contains. We are gradually being divested of it.

Political corrections is destroying bit by bit the foundations that made America a nation standing out in the world as prosperous, aiding our neighbors, and being welcoming to those wanting to come and live here, abiding by our laws and ways of being. It is and has been constantly under attack by the attempt to bring their failed ideology with them.

Thank God for our Christian nation. STAND for it.

The suppression of our faith is constant, and deadly to our nation. WAKE UP!


48 posted on 11/21/2015 11:41:26 AM PST by midlander
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To: celmak
Maybe the point is to remember who we were and where we came from. So we keep the name and just say under our breath, "but he was a jerk."

If everything is "scrubbed" people may not remember why it needed to be scrubbed. I don't doubt that somebody will be yelling racism all the time, but the specifics eventually get lost.

So if you go to Woodrow Wilson School, it gives you something to think about and maybe you remember a complicated heritage of good and bad mixed together, and maybe you're less shallow than you would be otherwise.

49 posted on 11/21/2015 11:47:25 AM PST by x
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To: celmak

Absurdly remove Franklin Delano Roosevelt memorial as well.
President Roosevelt ordered the Incarceration of Japanese Americans
And don’t forget Harry S Truman, he dropped the bomb.
And of course during Lyndon B. Johnson s first 20 years in Congress, he opposed every civil rights measure that came up for a vote so says Barack Obama on Thursday April 10th 2014 in speech at the Lyndon B Johnson Library
And what about Jimmy Carter A 1980 investigation by the Atlanta Journal-Consitution revealed that Carter had up to and including 18 slaves working in his peanut farm
Well Bill Clinton was half black, I will pass on that one


50 posted on 11/21/2015 12:00:43 PM PST by Rock N Jones (s)
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To: celmak

Keylor thinks Wilson is Princeton’s most famous President? Has he never heard of John Witherspoon?


51 posted on 11/21/2015 12:50:27 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: sparklite2; Leaning Right
Yeah, but that was before the big switch.

I was watching a debate, a conservative vs. a liberal, and the conservative made the point that most Jim Crow supporters (KKK, etc.) were Democrats.

The liberal countered that that was before the big switch. That's when all the bad racist Democrats magically became Republicans, and all the good folks in the GOP magically became Democrats.

The lib didn't give any more details on that. No time line, etc. Kinda complicated, I guess. Probably caused by magnetic fluctuations in the earth's core, or something like that.

It would be funny if there was not in fact a switch over time. My memory is too Southern-heavy, as the exchange of talking points is mostly that of seeing southern democrats drop their conservatism in the 1950s. When did blacks switch ... during the Depression as FDR promised what the republicans of the 1920s deprived them of? But that’s a change of electorate, not of the parties.

It’s a good question.

I will argue that the switch was led by blacks abandoning the Party of Lincoln for the Party of FDR. Notwithstanding that the Republican Party did not give up on the black vote until 1968.

Nixon:
A Life
states that there were five or six things that Nixon could have reasonably expected in 1960 which did not go his way. Among them were an endorsement from Eisenhower (frankly, IMHO Ike would have been forthcoming with it if anyone had pointed out to him that since the passage of the 12th Amendment only Andrew Jackson had seen his sitting VP win election as POTUS), the fact that Nixon accidentally banged up his knee enough to seriously affect his ability to campaign, the fact that he was disadvantaged in a TV “debate” which he won if heard on the radio, and others. One of which was that he did not get support from blacks (negroes, as they were then politely called).

That was the turning point; since then Republicans have assumed that the black vote was not an opportunity but a problem for them. Hence the famous “Southern Strategy” of Nixon’s victorious 1968 campaign. Historically, that doesn’t happen if Nixon had gotten black support in 1960 - in which case he would have won the election. And although he had not made much of it politically, Eisenhower had been very good for negro black progress. Which makes Eisenhower’s failure - I will call it that - to endorse Nixon a historic turning point in US politics.


52 posted on 11/21/2015 1:03:05 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Oldexpat

It’s an idea whose time is long over due. Now we know the mystery of why no blacks have ever graduated from Princeton.
Get rid of all W.Wilson pics and anything related to him.

Once Princeton is liberated from this curse we can get ready to celebrate 1st black ever to graduate from Princeton.

How could we have not solved this mystery after all these years.


53 posted on 11/21/2015 1:04:23 PM PST by fingers_crossed
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To: celmak

Woodrow Wilson was a horrible President. His “accomplishments”, the Federal Reserve and the income tax, were perhaps as bad as his virulent racism.

Wilson’s successor in office, Warren G Harding, is the single most unfairly maligned and underrated President. Aside from a couple of juicy scandals that became public after his death, Harding’s term as President was a spectacular success, for which the credit is normally given, even by conservatives, to his successor Calvin Coolidge. Coolidge did keep his pants (and lips) zipped much better than Harding.


54 posted on 11/21/2015 1:13:19 PM PST by doug6352
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To: doug6352

Yes, Harding’s reputation needs rehabilitating. It budged a little bit a few months ago with the DNA testing that absolved him of the nickname, “the shadow of Blooming Grove.”

I think his correspondence with Carrie Philips almost was allowed to surface but was pushed by down by the Harding family. His personal life was like an early Bill Clinton.
But in office, he did a lot of good stuff. He was certainly a better president than Carter and damaged America no where near the extent Obama has done.


55 posted on 11/21/2015 1:31:04 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: Theodore R.

You do. Elitist much?


56 posted on 11/21/2015 1:54:50 PM PST by Misterioso (Altruism is a sin.)
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To: celmak

This is one of those rare instances where the progressives are eating their own.

It should be pointed out that there hasn’t been any ‘advantage’ to having Wilson’s name on these things. It doesn’t get people talking about his racial our bureaucratic views anyways, does it? Wilson was a virtual unknown to many of us until 2009-2010.

If any of these locations were renamed from a Founding Father to Woodrow Wilson, now would be a good time to correct that mistake.


57 posted on 11/21/2015 2:24:11 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to the historians anymore.)
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To: NorthMountain
We should scrub all memorials to Martin Luther King and WEB DuBois.

No, all references to white men born before the election of Barack Obama. (Hey, I'm just trying to stay up with the trend here.)

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58 posted on 11/22/2015 3:39:05 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: celmak

If it includes the successor to the League of Nations, then yes.


59 posted on 11/22/2015 6:15:54 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: celmak

Only when the liberal PC police start erasing their own instead of attacking others will the absurdity of their àgenda become obvious.


60 posted on 11/25/2015 6:48:40 PM PST by apoliticalone (Political correctness should be defined as news media that exposes political corruption)
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