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Ted Cruz won’t rule out legalization for illegal immigrants
Hot Air ^ | 11/21/2015

Posted on 11/21/2015 2:49:49 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

"If we put in place a strong E-Verify system and deport criminal illegal aliens, the number of people here illegally will drop significantly, particularly if there's not a continual flow of people coming in illegally," Cruz said.

"At that point, once we've demonstrated that we can solve the problem, then we can have a conversation about what to do about whatever people remain illegally," Cruz added. When asked if that conversation included the potential for a pathway to legal status, he repeated, "We can have that conversation with the American people once we secure the border."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; invasion
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To: Finny

I will trust the less-than-perfect guy with a true political compass: The guy who wants to “have a conversation”? No, thank you.


141 posted on 11/21/2015 4:45:52 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: FreeReign

Assumption much?


142 posted on 11/21/2015 4:48:20 PM PST by moehoward
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To: odawg

Okay. I don’t follow Cruz all that closely, so I pick up things late sometimes. Thanks.


143 posted on 11/21/2015 4:48:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Let you in on a little secret.

Trump knows you do not negotiate from a position of weakness. Thus the “they all gotta go back” diatribe.

Cruz gives up half the battle by acquiescing legal status before anyone has sat at the table. Surprising for an Attorney of his stature.


144 posted on 11/21/2015 4:54:41 PM PST by moehoward
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

They gotta go.

You are a public servant of American citizens. Do what we tell you to do, or we will fire you.

End of conversation.


145 posted on 11/21/2015 5:02:35 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: moehoward
A touchback legalization amnesty for all but the criminals.

Assumption much?

A touchback legalization amnesty is implied from Trump's use of the word "expedite". Trump doesn't say that they should "go to the end of the line".

146 posted on 11/21/2015 5:03:43 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

He says they have to come in legally, which is not how they are here now.


147 posted on 11/21/2015 5:08:51 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The only issue I have with Cruz is his insistence that the 14th Amendment protects Anchor Babies, it does not.

Since he is a Constitutional Lawyer, I was shocked by his statement that a Constitutional Amendment must be put in place rather than the reality that Congress can change the Birthright Immigration Policy without defying the 14th Amendment.

I’m a Cruz Supporter, but this one thing has been bugging me since he made his comments sometime back.

As far as the Thread topic is concerned, I will have to give it some thought before I comment further. I understand the reality of his take on this, but I would still like to know what qualifies as a Secure Border to him, Trump’s Wall?


148 posted on 11/21/2015 5:09:49 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Republicans hold Debates while Democrats hold Auctions.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Cruz plans no wall.

The Cruz written plan contains a wall.

He doesn't plan on sending illegals back to their nation of origin.

Trump's and Cruz's written plans mention deportation for the criminals back to their nation of origin. Trump's and Cruz's written plans do not mention deportation for the non criminals, but they do say that existing laws should be enforced which would certainly imply deportation.

In that, his plan is no different than John McCain’s plan.

No it's not.

149 posted on 11/21/2015 5:10:58 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: moehoward

Great point. You can’t negotiate from behind unless you’re Obama and Kerry of course.


150 posted on 11/21/2015 5:11:43 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Republicans hold Debates while Democrats hold Auctions.)
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To: chris37
He says they have to come in legally, which is not how they are here now.

He wants to "expedite" them back in legally.

A way to expedite them in legally would be for a cut-the-line legalization amnesty passed by Mitch and Ryan and then signed off by Trump.

151 posted on 11/21/2015 5:14:40 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Amntn; VinL

It is not false. VinL has the video from 2011 of Cruz talking about a wall.


152 posted on 11/21/2015 5:16:21 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: FreeReign

Or not.


153 posted on 11/21/2015 5:18:03 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: conservativejoy; Amntn; VinL
It is not false. VinL has the video from 2011 of Cruz talking about a wall.

Link

154 posted on 11/21/2015 5:21:28 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Kickass Conservative

He’s actually been saying that we must end anchor babies either by legislation, or if necessary, by an amendment.


155 posted on 11/21/2015 5:22:05 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: FreeReign

Thank you for the link!!


156 posted on 11/21/2015 5:23:02 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: moehoward

good point, moe, but why do you believe he gave up half of any battle?

cruz is as constitutional as hussein is fascist.

hussein used a whole lotta doublespeak on the campaign trail, but we knew what he meant.

why can’t cruz say “we’ll talk about x after we do y” and know all along that he’ll work for doing x the correct way when that time comes along? we all knew hussein would never do the right thing when push comes to shove. i think we can rely on cruz to do that, too. :)


157 posted on 11/21/2015 5:25:13 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Cruz has said before he does not support any kind of amnesty.

Now tell us again how much you like Bill Clinton.


158 posted on 11/21/2015 5:26:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: FreeReign
Cruz plans no wall.

The Cruz written plan contains a wall.

I was informed by someone else that it did.  As I told them, I had read something from weeks back that led me to beleive he didn't plan to put a wall in place.  I was wrong.  He does.  I addressed this.  HERE


He doesn't plan on sending illegals back to their nation of origin.

Trump's and Cruz's written plans mention deportation for the criminals back to their nation of origin. Trump's and Cruz's written plans do not mention deportation for the non criminals, but they do say that existing laws should be enforced which would certainly imply deportation.

Trump has been hawking sending them all back.  Trump has said he will round up and deport illegals.  Get them out!  There's no ambiguity there.

In that, his plan is no different than John McCain’s plan.

No it's not.


In light of a wall being built, I would agree with you on that issue.

159 posted on 11/21/2015 5:29:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: FreeReign; conservativejoy; Amntn; VinL

What you said about Trump is false and I posted supporting evidence.

I didn’t say anything about Cruz.


160 posted on 11/21/2015 5:30:37 PM PST by Amntn
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