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Is Donald Trump Actually a Narcissist? Therapists Weigh In!

Posted on 11/23/2015 6:58:00 PM PST by Faith Presses On

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To: Faith Presses On

Seems like Trump tells his rally crowds he loves them and says it often. Did we hear that from Bammy? or Hellary?
They are incapable of saying it nor even mean it.


21 posted on 11/23/2015 7:13:25 PM PST by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: Faith Presses On

I just don’t see him as narcissistic at all.


22 posted on 11/23/2015 7:14:27 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: tanknetter

A therapist in the story also questions the sanity of people supporting Trump, as he contends that they fail to grasp that with his ego he is unsuitable to be President. As I wrote above, the public is used to the egos of politicians, even though typically they try to cover up their ulterior motives and sell themselves as patriots and “public servants” of high ideals and virtues.


23 posted on 11/23/2015 7:15:08 PM PST by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Faith Presses On

“And he wants to deport immigrants, but [two of] his wives have been immigrants.” Michaelis took a slightly different twist on Trump’s desire to deport immigrants: “This man is known for his golf courses, but, with due respect, who does he think works on these golf courses?”

Well at least that saved me from reading the rest.


24 posted on 11/23/2015 7:15:48 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Bunch of no-name members of “the helping professions” try to get some MSM attention by hooking on to the Trump name.


25 posted on 11/23/2015 7:16:19 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: glenduh
Trump is not narcissistic. His children are obvious proof.

How are his children obvious proof? I'm not looking for a fight, just interested in how you can tell based on what we've seen of Trump's children.

26 posted on 11/23/2015 7:17:29 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: tflabo

He shares the stage with others.

He says WE are winning.

It’s a movement that is sweeping the nation and carrying him too.

And he’s taken more fire than any politician I can recall.

A real narcissist would have had a full on blowout by now.

I really don’t think so.


27 posted on 11/23/2015 7:21:36 PM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: Faith Presses On

...maybe but better than the pathological narcissist in the WH right now.


28 posted on 11/23/2015 7:23:03 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Lost me at ‘Pert’.


29 posted on 11/23/2015 7:28:41 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic needs your financial support.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
A Shrink Asks: What's Wrong With Obama?

From Robin of Berkeley

(2010)

_________________________________________ So what is the matter with Obama? Conservatives have been asking this question for some time. I've written a number of articles trying to solve the mystery.

Even some liberals are starting to wonder. James Carville railed about Obama’s blasé attitude after the catastrophic oil spill. The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd revamped Obama’s "Yes We Can" motto into "Will We Ever?'"

The liberal women of the TV show "The View" have expressed sympathy for Michelle Obama's living with a man so out of touch. Peggy Noonan, hardly a vehement Obama foe, recently pronounced him disconnected.

Obama's odd mannerisms intrigue a psychotherapist like me. He also presents a serious diagnostic challenge.

For one, Obama's teleprompter and the men behind the Blackberry keep him well-scripted. We know so little about the facts of his life.

But it's more than just a lack of information. Obama himself is a strange bird. He doesn’t fit easily into any diagnostic category.

Many people attribute Obama's oddness to his narcissism. True, Obama has a gargantuan ego, and he is notoriously thin-skinned.

Yet a personality disorder like narcissism does not explain Obama's strangeness: his giggling while being asked about the economy; his continuing a shout-out rather than announcing the Ft. Hood shootings; or his vacations, golfing, partying and fundraising during the calamitous oil spill.

Take also Obama's declaring on the "Today Show" that he wants to know whose ass to kick. Consummate narcissists would never stoop to this vulgar display of adolescent machismo.

Obama is flat when passion is needed, he's aggressive when savvy is required. What's most worrisome is that Obama doesn’t even realize that his behavior is inappropriate.

So if it's not just simple narcissism, what is wrong with Obama? Since I’ve never evaluated him, I can't say for sure. But I can hazard some educated guesses.

If I saw a client as disconnected as him, the first thing I would wonder: Is something wrong with his brain? And I'd consider the following theoretical diagnostic possibilities.

–Physical problems: There are a multitude of physiological conditions that can cause people to act strangely. For instance: head injuries, endocrine disturbances, epilepsy, and toxic chemical exposure.

It makes me wonder: Did Obama ever have a head injury? His stepfather in Indonesia was purportedly an alcoholic abuser. Was Obama subject to any physical abuse?

- Drugs and alcohol: Damage to the brain from drugs and alcohol can also cause significant cognitive impairments. Obama once said that there were 57 states — and didn't correct himself. Memory problems can be caused by both illicit and prescription drug use.

Obama admits to a history of drug use in his youth. Did his usage cause some damage? Does Obama still use?

-Asperger's Syndrome: Also known as high-functioning autism, Asperger's causes deficits in social skills. A person with Asperger's can’t read social cues. Consequently, he can be insensitive and hurtful without even knowing it.

Could Obama have Asperger's? He might have some mild traits, but certainly not the full-blown disorder. In contrast to Obama, those with Asperger's get fixated on some behavior, like programming computers. Obama lacks this kind of passion and zeal.

-Mental Illness: Obama's family tree is replete with the unbalanced. His maternal great-grandmother committed suicide. His grandfather, Stanley Dunham, was particularly unhinged: He was expelled from high school for punching his principal; named his daughter Stanley because he wanted a boy; and exposed young Barry to not just drunken trash talk, but unrestricted visits with alleged pedophile Frank Marshall Davis (who might or might not be Obama’s biological father). Barack Sr. was an abusive, alcoholic bigamist. Since mental illness runs in the family, does Obama have any signs? Yes and no. No, he is not a schizophrenic babbling about Martians. But there are red flags for some other conditions.

While Obama doesn’t appear to hallucinate, he seems to have delusions. His believing he has a Messiah-like special gift smacks of grandiose delusions. His externalizing all blame to conservatives, George W. Bush, or the "racist" bogeyman hints at persecutory delusions.

Along with a delusional disorder, Obama may fit for a mild psychotic disorder called schizotypal disorder. It may explain some of Obama’s oddness.

People with schizotypal disorder hold bizarre beliefs, are suspicious and paranoid, and have inappropriate and constricted affect. They have few close friends and are socially awkward. A schizotypal is someone like your strange cousin Becky who is addicted to astrology, believes she is psychic, and is the oddball at social gatherings.

Schizotypal Disorder does ring some bells vis-à-vis Obama. One way the diagnosis doesn't fit, however, is that schizotypals are generally harmless, odd ducks. Not so with Obama.

-Trauma: My gut tells me that Obama was seriously traumatized in childhood. His mother disregarded his basic needs, dragged him all over the place, and ultimately abandoned him.

But I think there may be something even more insidious in his family background. While I can’t prove it, the degree of Obama’s disconnect reminds me of my sexually abused clients.

With serious sexual abuse, the brain chemistry may change. The child dissociates —-that is, disconnects from his being — in order to cope. Many adult survivors still dissociate, from occasional trances to the most extreme cases of multiple personality disorder.

Apparently, young Barry was left in the care of Communist Frank Marshall Davis, who admitted to molesting a 13-year-old girl. As a teenager, Obama wrote a disturbing poem, "Pop," that evoked images of sexual abuse - for instance, describing dual amber stains on both his and "Pop’s" shorts. Would trauma explain Obama’s disconnect? In many ways, yes. A damaged and unattached child may develop a "false self." To compensate for the enormous deficits in identity and attachment, the child invents his own personality. For Obama, it may have been as a special, gifted person.

Let's return now to my original question: What is wrong with Obama? My guess is a great deal. The answer is complex and likely includes some combination of the above.

Along with the brain issues are personality disorders: narcissism, paranoia, passive'aggressiveness. There’s even the possibility of the most destructive character defect of all, an antisocial personality. Untreated abuse can foster antisocial traits, especially among boys.

If my assessment is accurate, what does this mean?

It means that liberals need to wake up and spit out the Kool-Aid…and that conservatives should put aside differences, band together, and elect as many Republicans as possible.

Because Obama will not change. He will not learn from his mistakes. He will not grow and mature from on-the-job experience. In fact, over time, Obama will likely become a more ferocious version of who he is today.

Why? Because this is a damaged person. Obama’s fate was sealed years ago growing up in his strange and poisonous family. Later on, his empty vessel was filled with the hateful bile of men like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers.

Obama will not evolve; he will not rise to the occasion; he will not become the man he was meant to be. This is for one reason and one reason alone:

He is not capable of it.

30 posted on 11/23/2015 7:30:41 PM PST by digger48
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To: Faith Presses On

To step up and say “I should be President” one has to have a pretty outsized ego and probably all presidential candidates fall into that category— Trump more than some. You could argue that one could not do the job without well-developed, and maybe even overdeveloped, self-confidence.

B.O. is the one these writers should be worrying about. His behavior goes beyond ego or self-confidence.


31 posted on 11/23/2015 7:34:27 PM PST by Calpublican (Boehner minus the alcohol and orange spray tan= Ryan.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
Trump is The textbook case for a narcissist CEO attention whore. Some what like Pert serving his purpose in the 1992 election. Too many duped dogs snap up the conservative red meat he throws out. Wait and see...

What a stupid thing to say. Trump is one of the most successful humans in history, he love and aspires to be American, he does not need to "Make America Great Again". But he is willing to spend the last few years of his life achieving it. And you little wiener dogs that sit back and bitch, mom's basement doweling pukes, and never contribute anything think you have standing to judge him? This is not the America I grew-up in, I'm ashamed to be in the same species as you.
32 posted on 11/23/2015 7:36:11 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Faith Presses On
I'm glad he's said some things and not backed down, but I would much rather see Cruz get the nomination.

Sure, sit back and let someone else do the work. Then swoop in and take credit for it. Kinda like welfare for for the political class.
33 posted on 11/23/2015 7:38:51 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: FourPeas

Where to begin?
Children of narcissistic parents suffer a range of psychological effects that stem from the chaotic and abusive treatment they receive. These aftereffects include becoming chronic caregivers, self-doubt and low self-esteem. As adults, these children ignore their own physical and emotional needs. They might develop anxiety disorders or depression. These children might also develop obsessive-compulsive disorder, eating disorders or sexual disorders. They could turn to self-medicating with alcohol or illegal drugs.


34 posted on 11/23/2015 7:40:31 PM PST by glenduh
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To: glenduh

Can they not also become “mini me’s?”


35 posted on 11/23/2015 7:44:28 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: FourPeas

I thought you were being genuine. Silly me.


36 posted on 11/23/2015 7:48:57 PM PST by glenduh
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To: glenduh; FourPeas

Yes Trump’s children completely crap on the notion of the idle rich and trust-fund babies.

Speaking of children of the narcissistic: homombama’s daughter has already started with the underage drinking. She fits the model you described.


37 posted on 11/23/2015 7:50:12 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: JoSixChip

He’s said that he thinks he’s never done anything that needs God’s forgiveness. Yet he courts Bible-believing Christians. This is politics, not the church. It’s the world’s government, not God’s Kingdom. And he may just be skilled enough to play on Christian voters, as Republican politicians so often do. He’s already mocked Ben Carson’s Christian conversion story, giving a secular psychological view of an angry person as someone who can’t be changed or helped. But that’s psychology speaking, not Christianity. Carson was essentially giving a Christian testimony, and it went entirely over Trump’s head. But again, this is secular politics. The things Trump does to help Christian values can be helpful. But if they are just politics on his part, then he doesn’t deserve more in return.


38 posted on 11/23/2015 7:50:14 PM PST by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: glenduh

Trump always credits the people at his rallies about a movement happening. You’re correct. He’s not a narcissist.


39 posted on 11/23/2015 7:54:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Faith Presses On
Ninety Three ....

93% of members of the American Psychological Association self identify as liberal democrats.

They're biased against Conservatives. If their membership overwhelmed any other minority other than Republican s they would be the first to scream for ‘diversity’...

Hypocrites... frauds... They're as objective about our people as the NRA would be about democrats. Ninety-three percent are liberal democrats.

40 posted on 11/23/2015 7:55:35 PM PST by GOPJ (Syrian men escape to US & EU..Our troops go to Syria to die in their place. It's nuts.)
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