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Jersey Sure (Mark Steyn 'Pinocchios' the Fact Checkers on Muslim 9/11 Celebrations)
Steyn Online ^ | Tuesday, November 24, 2015 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/24/2015 4:08:12 AM PST by kristinn

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To: wita
Oh so now it's matter of faith and religious dogma?

We live in modern times. The ability to prove these things with cameras/video recorders existed in 2001. This controversy about Muslims celebrating in the streets of Jersey City (I originally heard Patterson) has been around for over 14 years. So far no proof.

41 posted on 11/24/2015 3:18:37 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Michael Moore's pillow)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Here’s the deal. FOX and other cable news outlets will often show loops of supportive footage that are not exactly associated with the story they are telling at the moment.

For example running video loops of syrians flooding across Europe while reporting on Syrians coming to the US.


42 posted on 11/24/2015 3:20:11 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Are you in the pay of ISIS or Obama?


43 posted on 11/24/2015 3:20:34 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: dforest
The allegations in the article were found to be unsubstantiated.

Again, remember what Trump actually said...he saw them on TV. There is no way he could have actually seen them. If he did, a video record would exist.

Oy vey schmeer

44 posted on 11/24/2015 3:23:38 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Michael Moore's pillow)
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To: kristinn
On a slightly broader note, what would any reputable newspaper be doing with a "fact checker" column in the first place? Doesn't it imply that the rest of the content isn't fact checked?
45 posted on 11/24/2015 3:24:23 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Sir_Humphrey

With all due respect....you are behind. catch up.


46 posted on 11/24/2015 3:34:23 PM PST by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

The ability to prove these things with cameras/video recorders existed in 2001

It also existed prior to the creation of earth. Perhaps not cameras as we know them, but the ability to record history. When all is said and done, man will know that the final judgment of God is based on grace, mercy, and unalterable incontrovertible inconvenient truth.


47 posted on 11/25/2015 6:11:43 AM PST by wita
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To: wita

What this has to do with Trump claiming he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City on 9-11.... I have no idea. I am not asking to engage in a philosophical or religious discussion. I simply am asking for evidence, not here say.


48 posted on 11/25/2015 3:20:19 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Michael Moore's pillow)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

...and what I am saying that you find not to your liking and not understandable is that sometimes you just aren’t going to get what you think you should, and that does not mean that what Trump claims is not true, in addition I wonder just how important proving the particular fact you take issue with is? You think it will have any bearing whatsoever on his poll numbers. Maybe you think it should. Frankly the nation is looking for an Obama wrecking ball and I think they have found him.


49 posted on 11/25/2015 4:23:51 PM PST by wita
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To: wita
Actually I have a thing about being able to back up your claims. Trump can not. Making unsubstantiated claims, lying if you will, for the "greater good" is a Democrat tactic.

As for the rest of your point, I think it's very risky and downright scary to vote for somebody only because you think he can win. I understand people's anger; the last 7 years have been a train wreck. Putting a shoot from the hip demagogue in the White House isn't the answer.

And, in the interest of full disclosure, I am a Ted Cruz guy. But I do so on the issues and not because he appeals to my anger.

50 posted on 11/26/2015 5:19:50 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Michael Moore's pillow)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

We all saw pictures of Muslims celebrating. You just don’t like Trump, fine, you are a good little globalist tool. The GOPe thanks you for attacking the only candidate that might be able stop the DC gravy train.


51 posted on 11/26/2015 5:42:00 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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If you saw pictures of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City on 9-11 then by definition, said pictures surely must exist. By now, after almost a week, somebody surely would have posted said pictures on the internet. This is nothing more than logic and critical thinking.In other words, put up or shut up.

As for the rest of your sophomoric ad homs about "globalist tool" and GOPe, I guess that is how it rolls on the internet these days. If you are unable to prove your point, then go in with the personal insults. Though the left does this far more than we conservatives do, your post shows we are not below stooping to such tactics.

And for the record, I support Ted Cruz. Not because I think he is the only one who can beat Hillary, but on his ideas. And also for the record, the GOPe absolutely hates Ted Cruz. You are right in that they don't want the DC gravy train to stop. Their guy is JEB.

52 posted on 11/26/2015 6:23:14 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Michael Moore's pillow)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
"And also for the record, the GOPe absolutely hates Ted Cruz."

Which explaining the all the praise the DC/NY media is pouring on Cruz these days /s

53 posted on 11/26/2015 6:51:27 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: jpsb
Praise? Last week the NY Times had an Op Ed saying it how "scary" (their exact word) a Cruz presidency would be.

More to the point the DC/NY media is NOT the GOPe. They didn't support Romney, McCain, Bush or Dole. They are about as anti GOP as you can get. Even when the GOPe candidate is running, the DC/NY media will never support them. Remember how afraid they were of Reagan circa 1979? They are using the same language about Cruz and to be fair also about Trump.

54 posted on 11/26/2015 7:15:55 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Bill Maher's pillow)
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