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To: RitaOK

The goal is TPP/illegal immigration and fundamentally transforming America. It is not to elect some conservative as the nominee. LOL!

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Hey Rita, just got back home.

I have to respectfully disagree with designation of the “goal”. You correctly identify the threshold problem as the GOP establishment. However, one must take that point a step further; that is, so long as the current elite remains in control of the GOP, there can be no fundamental transformation in America.

Our goal then can only be dismantling the current GOP establishment, and returning the GOP to its limited government origins.

As for Trump v. Cruz, I’m still not certain that they are not in fact working in concert. I touched on that fact with you some time back when Trump went after Carson. You may recall, I indicated that it seemed Trump was helping Cruz in Iowa, especially where it would have been better for Trump to allow Carson and Cruz to split the Iowa evangelicals.

Trump went further when he rhetorically asked if “Iowans were stupid”, and still further when he opted out of appearing at Vander Plaat’s forum. Trump is not dumb, and these were not smart political moves.

It seems to me that Trump is ceding Iowa to Cruz. But, at the same time, Cruz attacked Rubio. There was no reason for that attack- it was premature. But, the effect of the attack would be to help Trump in NH, where Trump’s only real challenge is Rubio, (Cruz currently only has the hope for 3rd or 4th place).

It would not be beyond imagination that Cruz formulated a strategy whereby Trump and him would freeze out the Gop-e candidates in the first 4 primary states.

Anyway, we’ll wait to see how Trump reacts to Cruz’s rise in the polls.


31 posted on 11/24/2015 1:44:16 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

Thank you for your reply to my glass-half-full remarks. I do appreciate your patience and hope you are quite correct with your analysis.

I had been reluctant to think that Trump, so early in the race, would have actually aligned with anyone in such a scheme (in the best sense of the word). However, two great minds together make anything possible, given there are no two men running with more disdain, and less use, for the corrupt GOP than do Trump and Cruz.

This would be about taking over the Party, which is certainly the goal of most conservatives, among the base.

I can see McConnell and Ryan both making governance miserable for either Trump or Cruz. McConnell is aligned with the Establishment and their financeirs, and Ryan is aligned with the Establishment and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, on all the income redistribution and illegal immigration issues.

Thanks, Vin.


32 posted on 11/24/2015 4:03:23 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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