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BREAKING: Russia Turns Its Back On Turkey! Pulls Out BILLIONS In Funding After Plane Shot Down!
Yes Im Right ^ | 11-25-2015 | Blair Patterson

Posted on 11/25/2015 2:10:12 PM PST by Kevin in California

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To: humblegunner

OK, now you’ve said something I can agree with.

lol


41 posted on 11/25/2015 2:35:21 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Kevin in California

With all this To Russia, With Love business going on here I may need to check into it. I wonder if the Russian Orthodox Church has room for displaced American Protestants?


42 posted on 11/25/2015 2:35:26 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Kevin in California

Turkey f’d up bad. A real stupid move on their part.


43 posted on 11/25/2015 2:36:23 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tumblindice

lol


44 posted on 11/25/2015 2:36:32 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: tcrlaf
Or does meet with the approved Soros/Omidyar propaganda meme?

Soros supports ANTI-American causes. The type that you and your fellow Putinistas push here 24/7. I've said a million times that I think Obama and KGB/FSB Putin are (not-so secretly) working together to bring about the demise of the US and rise of the Soviet Union part 2. "Flexibility" on missile defense and the NewSTART nuke treaty. The Obama-Putin Iran deal, etc, etc. Meanwhile that S.B. Obama has been slashing our own military.

Trump: Iran Deal Requires U.S. Protecting Iran in Event of Israeli Strike

by Jacob Kornbluh
Sept 2, 2015

In a phone interview with CNN Tuesday evening, Trump claimed that there's "something in the Iran deal" that "people don't understand" saying if someone attacks Iran, "we have to come to their defense."

"Does that include Israel?" Trump asked. "And most people say yes, they don't have an exclusion for Israel. So if Israel attacks Iran, according to that deal, I believe, the way it reads, unless they have a codicil or they have something to it, that we have to fight with Iran against Israel." ..."

Trump was most probably referring to language highlighted by the opponents of the deal. On page 142, the deal includes a clause that states, "Co-operation through training and workshops to strengthen Iran's ability to protect against, and respond to nuclear security threats, including sabotage, as well as to enable effective and sustainable nuclear security and physical protection systems."

Washington-based Center for Security Policy asserted that Annex III appears "to commit the United States and other world powers to the defense of Iran's nuclear program."

http://jpupdates.com/2015/09/02/trump-iran-deal-requires-u-s-protecting-iran-in-event-of-israeli-strike/
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Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran's Quds Force leader

September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com

As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran's Quds Force commander - their chief exporter of terror - and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ..."

The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran's proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ..."

Officials who have monitored the build-up say they've seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants - some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/
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Pro-Hezbollah Paper: Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah Form Alliance

Sept 23, 2015

A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. "The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon's Hezbollah as the fifth party,"

Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the "4+1 alliance", a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad's regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/22/report-russia-partners-with-hezbollah.html
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From Real Clear Politics, Sept 10, 2015...

"In a 2014 New Yorker interview, Obama said his goal was to create a 'new equilibrium' in the Middle East.

In the short run, at least, his signature diplomatic undertaking can be counted on to bring more violence to this volatile region.

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the [Obama-Putin Iran deal] agreement is formally known, provides the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism an infusion of somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 billion of unfrozen assets and a great deal more of continuing revenues as businesses and governments around the world rush to profit from oil-and-gas-rich Iran's reintegration into the world economy.

The agreement relaxes the international isolation of the Islamic Republic and ratifies Tehran's status as a nuclear threshold state. And it relieves restrictions on Iran's acquisition of weapons, including ballistic missiles. ..."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/10/iran_deal_throws_sparks_on_mideast_tinderbox_128034.html

45 posted on 11/25/2015 2:37:03 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

Because spamming walls of text no one is going to bother reading is what you are paid to do, right?


46 posted on 11/25/2015 2:38:38 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: ETL

A cheer for Russia is a cheer for the mullahs.


47 posted on 11/25/2015 2:39:21 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: ETL

Why are you still posting this nonsense blaming Russia for the alleged Yuschenko poisoning?

Even the incredibly biased article you post says: “Exactly who was behind the poisoning has never been officially determined. It’s been blamed on the Russian secret police, on Yanukovych’s supporters, even on Yushchenko himself, a publicity stunt to garner election support.”

And even that is an understatement.

No evidence has ever been produced that the Russian government had any involvement with this incident; in fact it appears the opposite is the case.

“In September 2009, Larysa Cherednichenko, former head of the department for supervision over investigations into criminal cases of the Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office, said high-ranking officials from the presidential secretariat and family members of Yushchenko falsified evidence in his poisoning case, with dioxin being added to Yushchenko’s blood samples. Cherednichenko claims she was warned that she would be dismissed from her office immediately after she wrote her report on August 26, 2009 and said she was offered two positions, which she refused, and contested her dismissal in court.

Also in September 2009, a special commission, created by the Verkhovna Rada, came to a conclusion that the Yushchenko dioxin poisoning was falsified to strengthen his positions during 2004 presidential elections. The commission demanded to bring to justice those guilty in fabrication of blood tests. To date, no one has been identified. There were allegations US intelligence services injected blood samples taken from Yushchenko with dioxin to feign poisoning These allegations were dismissed by Ukraine’s Office of the Prosecutor General.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko

Also:

“However, a new team of investigators assigned to the case after Yushchenko lost power to his long-term rival Viktor Yanukovych, alleged that the Yushchenko dioxin poisoning could have been falsified to strengthen his positions during 2004 presidential elections.

Investigators demanded that the ex-president give new blood tests, as traces of dioxin remain in blood forever.

Yushchenko, whose health has improved significantly since 2004, has refused to cooperate and said last year he wanted to “close that chapter” in his life.”
http://sputniknews.com/world/20120405/172637154.html

In other words, Yuschenko refuses to give blood samples that could at least determine whether he was poisoned by dioxin at all!
In any court in the world failure of a party to produce evidence within his control justifies an inference that the evidence, if produced, would be unfavorable to that party’s position.

But here’s the capper: In 2008, while Yuschenko was still President, US Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper, reported:

“President Viktor Yushchenko on Thursday accused the godfather of one of his children and member of his own political party of involvement in his near-fatal poisoning, a stunning twist to one of post-Soviet Ukraine’s most notorious scandals.

Yushchenko did not provide evidence for his claim that David Zhvania participated in giving him a massive dose of dioxin that sickened him and left his face badly scarred.

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This summer, Zhvania angered Yushchenko by claiming that the president suffered only from food poisoning and accusing his staff of inventing a politically motivated attack to boost his popularity during the closely fought presidential campaign.

Asked Thursday at a news conference whether he thought Zhvania took part in the poisoning, Yushchenko answered: “I think yes, to put it mildly.”

Zhvania countered that Yushchenko’s poisoning has yet to be proved.

He dismissed Yushchenko’s statement as “absolutely ill-considered and irresponsible” and said it shows his disregard for the rule of law.

“Such actions of V. Yushchenko don’t disgrace him personally as much as they humiliate Ukraine in front of the international community,” Zhvania said in a statement.
http://blog.cleveland.com/pdextra/2008/07/ukraine_president_blames_forme.html

In other words, Yuschenko close political and personal ally says Yuschenko was not “dioxin poisoned,” and Yuschenko then accuses the son in law himself [not the Russians] of being behind the poisoning!

Beyond that, you don’t tell us that Yuschenko awarded the title Hero of Ukraine to the Nazis collaborator mass murderer Stepan Bandera and has praised his barbarous Ukrainian Insurgent Army, ally of Hitler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko

Also, per the same article:

“Also in September 2005, former president Leonid Kravchuk accused exiled Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky of financing Yushchenko’s presidential election campaign, and provided copies of documents showing money transfers from companies he said were controlled by Berezovsky to companies controlled by Yushchenko’s official backers. Berezovsky confirmed that he met Yushchenko’s representatives in London before the election, and that the money was transferred from his companies, but he refused to confirm or deny that the money was used in Yushchenko’s campaign. Financing of election campaigns by foreign citizens is illegal in Ukraine.”

He was such a pathetic president he got barely 5% of the vote in running for re-election.

Some “Hero”!


48 posted on 11/25/2015 2:39:30 PM PST by marvel5
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To: Kevin in California

I long for a leader with balls, other than golf balls.


49 posted on 11/25/2015 2:39:39 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (If it's irrrelated to elephants, it's irrelephant.)
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To: ETL

Turkey will learn the hard way here. And it’s just started.


50 posted on 11/25/2015 2:39:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tcrlaf
Because spamming walls of text no one is going to bother reading is what you are paid to do, right?

I read it. Russia and Iran and Assad and Hezbollah are allies. What's good for one is good for all four. That needs to be kept clear in our thinking.

51 posted on 11/25/2015 2:41:23 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Zathras
Look for Obama/Bush to push to send Billions to Turkey.

He probably has already pulled out his magical pen to sign the blank check.

52 posted on 11/25/2015 2:42:26 PM PST by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: ETL

The Polish plane crashed because of multiple incidents of pilot stupidity.


53 posted on 11/25/2015 2:44:00 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Kevin in California

Not to worry, Obama will probably make us take up the slack.


54 posted on 11/25/2015 2:44:45 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: marvel5

Don’t you know how to post a coherent legible post? Or are you just too friggin lazy to remove and replace those special characters with ones that will properly convert? Or are you too dumb to figure it out yet.


55 posted on 11/25/2015 2:45:21 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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That is one of the most poorly written stories I’ve read in a while.

There are quotes, but no attribution. There are no definitive statements. There are a lot of “ mays” and “coulds”.

When there is something more definitive than someone’s blog, we can take this seriously.


56 posted on 11/25/2015 2:47:23 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: Kevin in California

Something tells me that Putin is not like Obama.


57 posted on 11/25/2015 2:50:30 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Red Badger

“So, he’s undermining the Turkish economy, creating lots of unemployed Turks who will then bring down Erdogan?.............”

Or flood Western Europe as refugees.


58 posted on 11/25/2015 2:52:33 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ETL

That’s not nice.


59 posted on 11/25/2015 2:52:51 PM PST by bimboeruption ("Occupy till I come" ~ OPORD issued by CIC Jesus Christ)
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To: All

Turkey has released what they say is the recording of the Russian pilots being warned, Iraq has grounded flights because of Russian missiles flying over their airspace.

http://www.canada.com/news/world/flights+northern+iraq+grounded+98protect+travellers+over+concerns/11537922/story.html


60 posted on 11/25/2015 2:57:37 PM PST by BeadCounter (,)
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