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To: ripnbang
It’s good to be principled...like closing the border, building a wall, deportation of illegals/criminals, bring jobs back, negotiating good trade deals...making America great again.

Wheee! Just click you ruby slippers together and everything will be fine!

It isn't YOUR wishlist that matters - It's the other conservative factions. Of course you are going to vote what seems right to you, but if you are not going to hold up the principles of all of us along with your own (meaning even the ones you don't especially care about), then not only will you lose, but you are doing a terrible disservice to the Conservative movement.

Supporting a candidate who is nominally Christian at best is telling the Christians that their deeply held convictions do not matter - Causing division. What that will inevitably do is cause the Christians to lift up their own candidate, who regards their principles as paramount, and thus the division is completed. Now two conservative factions are directly in opposition, and the neocon walks up the middle and takes the prize (only to lose in the general).

The only way we win is for every conservative faction to be represented in the candidate - A candidate who stands for ALL American Conservative principles. There is only one out there that can pull that off, and that ain't trump.

You guys get the bit in your teeth and forget that trump has nothing to offer the Christians, and nothing to offer the Military/Foreign Policy guys, and nothing to offer the civil-libertarians... He has a poor record, and all we can go by is election year promises (and we all know what those are worth).

Of course Christians should not vote trump. He has nothing at all for them, and cannot serve them.

253 posted on 11/29/2015 9:57:34 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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Trump was nurtured in a particular form of Christianity, which he has mentioned. He attended Norman Vincent Peale's church on Fifth Avenue, Marble Collegiate Church. Peale is most famous for The Power of Positive Thinking.

This is not the same as the teaching of the "Prosperity Churches." It is one aspect of Christianity, though, which stresses strength and success in good things through confidence that God will help you, and not succumbing to failure and despair.

You might say it is a good Christian philosophy for a president of the United States, especially at this moment. If Trump were a different kind of Christian he might be more soft-spoken in his attitude and yes, even more strictly obedient to Scripture.

Yet because of many of the reasons stated on this thread, I see him as immeasurably superior to all the other candidates to be a world leader. If I'm wrong, I hope I will see it. May the Lord give us all the power to see what is right for us, or give us the leader of his choice in any case.

254 posted on 11/29/2015 10:26:24 PM PST by firebrand
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To: roamer_1

It appears that many Christians are supporting Trump based on his numbers...true, there may be many others that are supporting him, but does that make the Christians that are supporting him any less Christian? Or the others any less important? What I’m hearing is that Christians should support Cruz because he says he’s a conservative Chritian, but yet if he is weak on certain issues with respect to other candidates, that doesn’t matter? So we get a candidate that is very strongly religious, but is weak on borders, illegal immigration, etc., that’s ok? That’s a case for Carson and Jeb.


257 posted on 11/30/2015 5:49:39 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: roamer_1
Of course Christians should not vote trump. He has nothing at all for them, and cannot serve them.

Trump is the first presidential candidate in our history whose background is entirely in sales and marketing - "selling the sizzle".

And boyohboy, has Free Republic ever bought it!

Just like the "partners" in various Trump development ventures who eventually wound up holding a big ol' bag of bupkis.

279 posted on 11/30/2015 5:54:54 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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