Close, but you're missing the point.It doesn't matter that *some* Christians support your candidate. Some always will. what you want, as a Conservative, is the candidate that most of them are going to be comfortable voting for. Otherwise you are in fact, supporting division among their ranks - Splitting the votes of the largest voting bloc in America is a dumb thing to do. And even 10% missed is enough to lose the general, as Romney (and I would say McAin't too) can attest.
true, there may be many others that are supporting him, but does that make the Christians that are supporting him any less Christian? Or the others any less important?
Forgive me, but yes. In my mind, anyone who is devout, who lives by Biblical precepts, will have trouble voting for Trump. Take away his election year speeches and look at his life, and what he has stood for, and one cannot see many of the values that Christians look for, and one can see support for things and organizations that Christians oppose.
Bear in mind that I am not speaking in judgement, but in statistics. I don't care about voter's individual faith - That is way above my paygrade - But the tendency is definitely for Christians to deny Trump. What is left is low-info Christians, and those to whom their faith is secondary.
What I’m hearing is that Christians should support Cruz because he says he’s a conservative Chritian, but yet if he is weak on certain issues with respect to other candidates, that doesn’t matter?
First, I don't think he's weak on anything.
Secondly, because I believe that a person must be guided by a strong moral compass, it is the primary thing I look for... and it is foremost in predicting a given outcome in any situation. Ergo, his moral fiber will innately guide him.
Thirdly, Cruz does not 'say' he is Christian. His history does. He walks the walk. Now, no one can judge his heart, but his actions speak much louder that his speeches.
So we get a candidate that is very strongly religious, but is weak on borders, illegal immigration, etc., that’s ok?
Ted Cruz is not weak on borders and immigration. If it were not for Ted Cruz, almost single-handedly, and against his party's wishes, immigration would already be a moot point.
Forgive me, but yes. In my mind, anyone who is devout, who lives by Biblical precepts, will have trouble voting for Trump. -
sorry...but I know many people you just described and they, would not have any trouble pulling the lever for him...at this point.
Take away his election year speeches and look at his life, and what he has stood for, and one cannot see many of the values that Christians look for, and one can see support for things and organizations that Christians oppose. -
That is true...there are things that I’m not happy with however, he, as we all, are sinful and fallen and are always able to be redeemed. We have disappointed before and will continue to be if we put our faith in man...
“Bear in mind that I am not speaking in judgement”...”What is left is low-info Christians, and those to whom their faith is secondary. -
Not speaking in judgment? How do you know they are LICs and their faith is secondary?
First, I don’t think he’s weak on anything. -
respectfully disagree with you. As I posted in other similar threads he had a couple of significant miscalculations, mistakes, or whatever you want to call it on votes this past year. I’ve seen all the excuses, etc., but have a hard time trusting someone who may be so calculating and that requires outside donors (yes, I know he receives a good deal of private donations, and that speaks volumes to his support, but those donations are not what is going to keep him in the race...he’s going to need big $$ donors, and they are going to expect something in return).
Secondly, because I believe that a person must be guided by a strong moral compass, it is the primary thing I look for... and it is foremost in predicting a given outcome in any situation. Ergo, his moral fiber will innately guide him. -
No disagreement here...but we do not know what is in someone’s heart.
Thirdly, Cruz does not ‘say’ he is Christian. His history does. He walks the walk. Now, no one can judge his heart, but his actions speak much louder that his speeches. -
ok. So what does that mean when it comes to the issues of the day? Is he going to support building a wall and deportation of those that are here illegally?
Ted Cruz is not weak on borders and immigration. If it were not for Ted Cruz, almost single-handedly, and against his party’s wishes, immigration would already be a moot point. -
Sorry, beg to differ...the issue is at national prominence now because of one person, and one person only. And it’s not Cruz.