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CalPERS may lower its return target; taxpayers may have to contribute more
Los Angeles Times ^ | 18 November 2015 | Melody Petersen

Posted on 11/29/2015 6:52:16 PM PST by Lorianne

xperts have warned for years that the state's largest public pension plan has overestimated how much its investments will earn, leaving taxpayers to pay billions of dollars more than expected.

Now the board of the California Public Employees' Retirement System is reconsidering. As soon as Wednesday, the fund's board could approve a plan that would slowly reduce to 6.5% the current 7.5% it says it expects to earn on its investments.

For taxpayers, that seemingly small change is significant.

Consider the average California Highway Patrol officer who now earns $105,000. Taxpayers currently contribute $47,000 a year for that officer's pension.

If calculated using an expected investment return of 6.5% instead, according to CalPERS documents, the taxpayer contribution would be $68,000 — an increase of more than 40%.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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To: Vince Ferrer

And some of these people are state retirees taking their checks to Nevada and Washington and paying no income tax.


21 posted on 11/29/2015 8:42:54 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Vince Ferrer
The problem Is two fold, guaranteeing very high payouts, and promising large returns on invested funds. A 20 year CHP retiree will make 60% of his high 3 years. I don't know if that includes overtime.

By comparison a 20 year FBI agent would make 34% of the average of his high 3, without the ability to spike his overtime.

22 posted on 11/29/2015 8:43:02 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: matthew fuller

Jerry Browns gift to the state. Signed the bill before midnight his last day in office his first term.


23 posted on 11/29/2015 8:44:52 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: cherry

If they leave California they can’t vote to keep their benefits. When it comes down to it, the citizens will have the final say about whether these pensions will get paid. Right now this is a big part of the reason democrats want high immigration. Someone has to pay the bill. But immigrants aren’t going to pay these bills either. They have a place to go back to.


24 posted on 11/29/2015 8:57:02 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lurker

They sure have changed the meaning of contribute, haven’t they?


25 posted on 11/29/2015 9:05:37 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

Cali is headed down the same path as Illinois gonna be ugly when it goes pop i don’t believe Illinois has much time left before the music stops


26 posted on 11/29/2015 9:29:47 PM PST by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: oldtech
Let’s see if I have this figured anywhere near right....the public citizen will retire on Soc. Sec. while the public servant gets a fat pension.

You are far too optimistic. The "public servant" gets both a fat pension and Social Security. And, the fat pension is inflation adjusted, which is almost never the case in the private sector.

27 posted on 11/29/2015 10:32:58 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: onedoug

Just whistling by.


28 posted on 11/29/2015 10:42:25 PM PST by windcliff
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To: CurlyDave

Some do and some don’t. 10s of thousands of peace officers in cal don’t come under soc sec


29 posted on 11/29/2015 10:43:34 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Lorianne

FTA: the average California Highway Patrol officer who now earns $105,000
Snip: a highway patrol officer could retire at 50.


Now you know why the ticket you receive starts at $250
Ponch & Jon are over paid.

From a comment below the article
California Highway Patrol officer - Average Compensation $152,799
http://californiapolicycenter.org/transparent-california-releases-2014-salary-data-for-california-state-and-university-employees/


30 posted on 11/29/2015 11:44:42 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

And then the retired officer, moves to another state, and spends the tax-payer’s money, in a different state.

What is breaking the back of California- is the state worker/teacher/correction officer/political office/illegal benefits for illegals and the pensions and health care, for people who have never produced a product, on their own dime.


31 posted on 11/29/2015 11:57:14 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Lorianne

#*&$ California


32 posted on 11/30/2015 2:10:41 AM PST by Drango (“Get me some muscle” - Melissa Click)
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To: Vince Ferrer

New Jersey is in the same quandary, and Christie has done well at the polls by raising the alarm about it. Whatever his faults, Chris Christie has all the right enemies. When the Asbury Park Press released the salary figures of every public school teacher in NJ, it fundamentally changed the game; the nonsense about “underpaid teachers” (who work less than half the year) was put to rest forever. They were clearly the enemy of taxpayers, not for drawing paychecks but for growing them (and their pensions/benefits) while increasing numbers of NJ homes went into foreclosure.


33 posted on 11/30/2015 3:52:53 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Vigilanteman

” So what happens when a critical mass of the taxpayers just move out of California? “

Hell No! Keep them there. They crapped in their own cages, make them live there in that mess.


34 posted on 11/30/2015 4:40:30 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Lorianne

Why not have the eventual recipients contribute more? That’s what the non-governmental part of the country does.


35 posted on 11/30/2015 7:53:25 AM PST by zeugma (http://xkcd.com/1608/)
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