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New concerns about Syrian refugees - Canada
Toronto Sun ^ | Dec.5/15 | Gordon Chong

Posted on 12/06/2015 4:14:38 AM PST by Dartman

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New concerns about Syrian refugees. Just because the prime minister has extended the timeline for bringing them to Canada, doesn’t mean the public’s legitimate questions have been addressed

Now that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has released more details about resettling 25,000 Syrian refugees in Canada and recalibrated its overly ambitious timetable, the exaggerated rhetoric has started to subside.

Rather than ending the debate, however, it raises other policy questions, since even more than 25,000 refugees could be on their way to Canada in 2016.

If not handled carefully, this has the potential of exacerbating anti-Muslim sentiment in Canada.

For instance: In the triage of who are the most deserving of Canada’s sympathy and generosity, should Christian refugees be prioritized?

After all, they are more likely to suffer, or be slaughtered, at the hands of Islamist terrorists, are they not? Are they therefore not in the most perilous situation?

That said, the main victims of Islamist terrorism are Muslims.

Indeed, it can be argued any apostates, whether Muslim or not, are equally at risk because they do not support the terrorists’ extreme literal interpretation of Islam in establishing a world-wide caliphate by force.

Not easy choices!

Also, are middle class, educated refugees being favoured over the destitute?

This distinction would clearly facilitate their integration and make life easier for Canadians in the short term.

It does nothing, however, to alleviate the desperate lives of the truly destitute Syrian refugees, regardless of their background.

The federal government is also going to waive the loans of up to $10,000 that cover travel costs to Canada and medical examinations for the Syrian refugees.

Is it fair to favour Syrian refugees alone with this policy over others in a world teeming with refugees?

Will everyone be exempted in the future?

Should there be a loan program, or should Canada simply absorb the costs?

If so, how will Canadian taxpayers react — especially those who have been through the process themselves and paid their loans back?

What about the costs of education and housing?

English as a second language training will have to be increased significantly.

Will religious schools be established to satisfy the needs of the more orthodox, or will Trudeau’s government have the common sense to resist segregation and insist on an integrated education for the newcomers’ children?

If so, how will the needs of the religious be accommodated?

In the interests of our vaunted multicultural environment and policy, and to ensure future ethnocultural and religious harmony, one would hope the refugees’ children will be integrated at the outset.

Children from different backgrounds, who learn, play and eat together, as well as visit their friends’ homes from an early age, learn to be tolerant and often make lifetime friendships with members of other cultural groups — a desirable policy outcome.

We have to face the challenges that the layering of a strong religious ethic on top of cultural differences poses over the long term for these refugees.

Safety and security issues have to be carefully addressed.

What impact will the jihadist rivalry between ISIS and al-Qaida have on how these terrorist groups view Canada’s actions?

Will it increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks in Canada?

ISIS does more things than slaughter people while dreaming of a world-wide Islamic caliphate.

It operates schools, food kitchens and a court system, all in the name of community service to establish, spread and maintain its influence.

Thorny questions, all deserving of careful consideration before plunging ahead blindly just to prove how generous and accommodating Canada and Canadians are.

For one thing, reports last week suggested many refugees who have been approached, don’t want to come to Canada, perhaps because their preference is to return home eventually, as long as home is still livable and no one is trying to kill them.

The settled niqab issue should provide some guidance about the visceral reaction of Canadians when they feel their hospitality is being abused and reasonable requests for accommodation from a generous host country are swept aside in an outburst of hubristic intransigence.

Politicians and refugee advocates must not succumb to the dismissive disparaging of legitimate concerns raised by skeptical citizens.

Ironically, many of those they are attacking come from minority groups themselves.


TOPICS: Canada; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: concerns; new; refugees; syrian
Mr. Chong raises some very good questions.
1 posted on 12/06/2015 4:14:38 AM PST by Dartman
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To: Squawk 8888

ping


2 posted on 12/06/2015 4:15:19 AM PST by Dartman (Notice how Obama and Trudeau are the only two who call ISIS, ISIL? Hmmm ...)
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To: Dartman

Good questions? Really? Like “extreme literal interpretation of Islam” which was the way of Mohammad, the mass murderer, in whose footsteps they follow?

Islam cannot be ‘interpreted’ - those in the West are fond of that expression which minimizes the reality and helps maintain the myth that the only real difference between Islam Christianity and Judaism is the name - which is part of the fiction (taqyyia) spread by muslims and parroted by idiots like the author above and sympathizers. Jihadi muslims and the so-called ‘moderates’ love this because it leave the West without a name for the enemy and sets it up for defeat, and its people for slaughter.

But then national suicide is not an alien concept for Canadian politicians ...


3 posted on 12/06/2015 5:14:05 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

There are not many different ways to interpret what is written in the quran and hadith.

Islam is a hate-filled, violence-inciting system of world takeover, with a twist of religion thrown in so that it can scream discrimination.


4 posted on 12/06/2015 5:44:25 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Dartman

The globalists have shown they don’t care what the natives think.


5 posted on 12/06/2015 6:02:21 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Islam is an all encompassing political system. Religious is the means of indoctrination, dissent is not tolerated. If you want to opt out, you must be a Christian or a Jew, pay you sin tax, and settle for being a second class citizen. Some Islamic nations do not even tolerate other religious texts or services (such as the capital of the Islamic empire, Saudi Arabia).


6 posted on 12/06/2015 6:04:59 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: Dartman

Canadians should have thought about that before they voted for Trudeau, they get what they deserve.


7 posted on 12/06/2015 6:08:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Canada wasn’t so cold they would be a haven for terrorist


8 posted on 12/06/2015 6:10:33 AM PST by scooby321
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To: JudyinCanada

No there are not - interpretation is anathema as mohammad said - Interpretation of the words of allah implies someone knows better than allah. There is only what allah said to mohammad. One cannot interpret the words of allah, who has determined everything down to the atomic level and beyond.

The only problems are the translations from Old Syriac to archaic Arabic. ‘White raisins’ becoming ‘virgins’ is a good example. The other problem is learning which sura is from the first or second given half - those from the first are null and void according to mohammad - one more reason that Islam cannot be ‘interpreted’.

There is only one official version of the koran, and only Talibari, Muslim, Isaq, and Bukhari are recognized as the official sources for hadiths and sunnahs.

Those that attempt interpretation are marked for death - which is one reason Sunni jihadis kill many other muslims - they are apostates.

‘Interpreted’ Islam is like believing there is such a thing as a moderate muslim or in the tooth fairy ...


9 posted on 12/06/2015 6:12:26 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: JudyinCanada
Islam is a hate-filled, violence-inciting system of world takeover, with a twist of religion thrown in so that it can scream discrimination.

I think of it as a pirate cult with multi-level marketing. Booty for those at the bottom, albeit with some risk; great power and wealth higher up (think imams up to caliph).

10 posted on 12/06/2015 6:18:18 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Dartman

Sounds like Trump needs to build 2 WALLS, given that creep in Canada.


11 posted on 12/06/2015 6:59:02 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Dartman
"So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot."

George Orwell

12 posted on 12/06/2015 7:31:42 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: PIF
Indeed, it can be argued any apostates, whether Muslim or not, are equally at risk because they do not support the terrorists extreme literal interpretation of Islam in establishing a world-wide caliphate by force.

Okay, I'll give you that. That is not open to interpretation. However, most of the remaining questions are quite thought provoking. I am sure many who are sympathetic to the so called "refugees" have never thought of them.

But then national suicide is not an alien concept for Canadian politicians ...

People who live in glass houses ...

13 posted on 12/06/2015 11:47:54 AM PST by Dartman (Notice how Obama and Trudeau are the only two who call ISIS, ISIL? Hmmm ...)
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To: dfwgator
Canadians should have thought about that before they voted for Trudeau, they get what they deserve.

Not all of us, FRiend, not all of us.

14 posted on 12/06/2015 11:50:54 AM PST by Dartman (Notice how Obama and Trudeau are the only two who call ISIS, ISIL? Hmmm ...)
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To: Dartman
Indeed, it can be argued any apostates, whether Muslim or not, are equally at risk because they do not support the terrorists extreme literal interpretation of Islam in establishing a world-wide caliphate by force.

The above was a comment by someone else.

"However, most of the remaining questions are quite thought provoking"

Well then your thoughts are quite easily provoked, it seems. As long as you remain apparently ignorant of the aims of Islam, you will continue to look for excuses and fail to recognize the hand of death when it is laid upon your shoulder ...

Couldn't resist the dig at cheese-heads, but they are further along in the process of national suicide.

15 posted on 12/06/2015 12:03:09 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

I thought cheese-heads were from Wisconsin. Learn something new every day.


16 posted on 12/06/2015 2:50:45 PM PST by Dartman (Notice how Obama and Trudeau are the only two who call ISIS, ISIL? Hmmm ...)
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To: Dartman; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

Canada Ping!

17 posted on 12/07/2015 4:20:21 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Dartman

Trudeau the Poofter does not care about these questions. He just needs to fulfill his promises to the Quebec Muslim community as quid pro quo for all the money they sent him.

Giving up Canadian cultural sovereignty and subjecting the Canadian People to demographic warfare is Poofter Trudeau’s initial accomplishment in his promise to bring “real change” to Canada.

To my mind the poofter is a treasonoous ba$tard.


18 posted on 12/07/2015 4:37:36 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: PIF

Couldn’t resist the dig at cheese-heads, but they are further along in the process of national suicide.

after 7 years of Obama....you birds are beyond suicide...homicide on a grand scale is more appropriate....the sooner Trump constructs the Great Wall of China on American soil ...the better...the Chimp in Chief has run out of superlatives to emphasize the horror of consuming your own flesh


19 posted on 12/15/2015 4:18:04 PM PST by albertabound
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