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Cruz Threatens to Nuke ISIS Targets
Real Independent News & Film ^ | December 9, 2015 | Robert Parry

Posted on 12/08/2015 8:54:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let Putin Nukem from Space, its the only way to make sure!


81 posted on 12/09/2015 11:08:38 AM PST by agincourt1415 (Trump-Cruz 2016 the Dream Ticket)
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To: DoughtyOne

When dealing with barbarians one must be prepared to unleash their own barbarism.

IF the muzlims were rational they would have divested themselves of their hateful religion generations ago.
They would have realised how it keeps them in a state of degeneration.
However the rulers see it as a near perfect tool to keep the serfs beneath them and the serfs never realise that they can do better on this earth.
Unfortunately the religion is so ingrained into every aspect of their lives they can see no better life short of their version of heaven.

Even though Judaism was a patriarchal society, they did not denigrate and demean their women.
The man was the family head and had final say in matters but it was a position of responsibility not one of power to be abusive.
Each partner, husband and wife, had responsibilities within the family.
Compare that to the muzlim absolute patriarchy. Each wife and child is completely subservient to the man. Women, wives, can be beaten for the least of things. Not having a meal done on time, not preparing a meal perfectly. Wives are not allowed to withhold sex, not allowed to drive, be in the presence of non family men, leave the home unescorted, own property and a host of other rules.

Girls are circumcised against their wishes in the most brutal fashion. They are not allowed to enjoy the sexual relationship with their husbands. Enjoyment of sex is reserved for men, so much so that temporary marriages are contracted for specific time periods, usually 2 or 3 days. This is a form of legal prostitution. I believe prostitution is punishable by stoning in the muzlim world.

At certain points in history even many Christian nations believed the man occupied the position of ultimate authority and everyone was subservient to him.
As the Christian nations matured and better understood the teaching of the Bible they threw off the evil and unfair parts of the patriarchy.
The muzlim has doubled down.

The Bible teaches us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves, to rejoice at the return of an errant child or friend.
We are instructed to forgive those who sin against us, pray for the salvation of the fallen away, to pluck out our eye if it offends us.

The muzlim it taught to lie, to kill members of other religions, to dominate in whatever way necessary.
The most brutal means are used as punishment. Stoning, beheading and drowning are the most common.
Children who offend their parents are not forgiven and urged to repent. They are killed to restore the honor of the family.

You are a civilised person raised in a country steeped in the Judeo Christian way of life.
To you and I each and every life is a precious gift from God.
We routinely read or hear of 2,3 or more people who jeopardise their own lives in an attempt to save another.
That is not the way in the muzlim world. To them life is short, cheap and brutal because their belief system keeps them in an ancient state of heart.

Kipling said, East is East West is West and never the two shall meet.

The Judeo Christian world will never understand the muzlim world because our belief system has raised us above the base tribalism and barbaric beliefs of the past.

The muzlim world will never understand the Judeo Christian world because their belief system relies on tribalism and base adherence to the teachings of a mad and power hungry paedophile misogynist.

I wish it was different but this is the perfect storm of the clash of belief systems that must be endured and survived. And only one system will survive.
That is not our choice but the choice of the muzlim.

There are only three possible ends.

We will hold to higher standards, or political correctness, and the muzlim will destroy and subjugate us.

We will do whatever is needed to win and we will destroy the muzlim.

The Lord will return to claim His rightful place on the throne of the entire world.
In doing so He will destroy all those who stand against Him, mostly the muzlim.

I myself am hoping for the return of the Lord Jesus.
It is the best possible outcome.


82 posted on 12/09/2015 1:45:00 PM PST by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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To: oldvirginian

I agree with all that you said. I do disagree that treating them decently has to mean the end of us.

When I say that, I do not believe East meets West either.

We’re water and oil and we won’t mix.

Oil will win out over fresh water because it will pollute it.

We need to keep them in their part of the world, and us in ours. Then if they every grow up beyond a 5th century intellect, we’ll talk.

We’re just sewing our destruction by moving them in.


83 posted on 12/09/2015 2:18:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree that we are sowing the seeds of destruction.

However you or I look at it the muzlim sees his religion as a promise of world domination.
It is promised to them in the koran. The very rock will call out to the muzlim - there is a Jew hiding behind me, come kill him.

They are not content to stay in their sandbox and grow up.
They are aware that the west is short sighted and does not have the stomach for a decades long struggle whereas they have been fighting for around 1600 years.
They believe jihad will win them the world and they see the weakness of the western leaders as a sign that NOW is the time.

They haven’t changed in 1600 years. Do not count on them to change in the future.


84 posted on 12/09/2015 3:58:41 PM PST by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Really?

Take any hundred “innocents” and send them to Germany, they are thieves, rapists and murderers. Norway just kicked a bunch of them out, and their crime rate plummeted.

Just how many moslem cities do you think it would take before they get the message?


85 posted on 12/09/2015 4:07:03 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: oldvirginian

I agree. That’s why I say let them stay in their sandbox, and well somehow carry on here without them.

Why our leaders can’t see that..., but then they know. There’s an agenda going on here, and I’m pretty sure if we knew what it was, there would be calls for mass lynchings.


86 posted on 12/09/2015 4:52:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

We’re not going to agree on this, but I understand where you are coming from. I’m all for keeping them out of the U. S., and I think we should send those here back home.

It’s not mean. It’s where they came from. We shouldn’t have to expose our nation the the cancer that is Islam.


87 posted on 12/09/2015 4:54:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: DoughtyOne

We should send them back. And still, if they attack, once we find out where they came from, we should relentlessly punish their community.

No troops.

We can blow up ISIS and send the refugees back to reclaim their land. Screw their parasite routine.


88 posted on 12/09/2015 6:05:35 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a Trump guy, but this is also what Trump needs to say. Putin has also.

B-61’s are probably needed at the low dial-a-yield settings for ISIS in the desert. 5-20kt. The 340kt’s are city level, and may also need to be used.

B83’s probably for the bigger cities.


89 posted on 12/09/2015 6:09:21 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Look at what Israel does. It destroys the homes of the terrorists, but it does not go in and kill their families.

It tries to limit casualties. It does take measure to discourage terrorism, but there is only so much you can do.


90 posted on 12/09/2015 6:11:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Monty22002

One Trident submarine could utterly destroy the entire Middle East with missiles left over.


91 posted on 12/09/2015 6:13:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah, they need to get over that.


92 posted on 12/09/2015 6:16:56 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Maybe so. I’m no sage on this.

I can only relate what makes sense to me.

I do not want to become an indiscriminate killer to combat indiscriminate killers.

That being said, this is a very difficult thing to combat since there are no declared sides, no uniforms, no field of combat.

I know where you are coming from.


93 posted on 12/09/2015 6:19:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My company was a subcontractor to Lockheed for the Trident programs. We made the integrated valve assemblies (IVAs).


94 posted on 12/09/2015 6:22:32 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s exactly how we won WWII.

Islam has declared war on us, and we must respond. If they want ruthless, we should give it to them.


95 posted on 12/09/2015 6:23:56 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I believe there are some interesting arguments to be made in that direction. At some point in time I may have to slip closer to that view myself.

There’s a nagging problem for both of us. We have millions of Islamic adherents in our nation. We don’t have millions of attacks.

How do we answer that, and claim that every Islamic adherent is worthy of indiscriminate killing?


96 posted on 12/09/2015 6:41:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m worried they may go to a 16 tube for the Ohio replacement. But, by now they should all by D5’s, and due to START II they probably have 5-8 RV’s. If they have W76’s, a sizable percentage will fail and give a 5-10kt with the secondary not going off for the full 100kt.

However, if a Ohio has 24 x 8 W88’s (350-475kt), that’s enough to destroy the entire Islamic world easily. Even if they are working W76’s, that’s enough.


97 posted on 12/09/2015 6:46:47 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

However, I’d still use bombers. If you start launching from Ohio’s, that could set off a major accidental WW3.

Cruise missiles with W80’s and B61’s and B83’s won’t have side effect launch issues. Plus, they’d still do the job.


98 posted on 12/09/2015 6:48:46 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: DoughtyOne
We have millions of Islamic adherents in our nation. We don't have millions of attacks.

There's still time. We may have one day with a hundred attacks. You willing to

How do we answer that, and claim that every Islamic adherent is worthy of indiscriminate killing?

Who said kill them? If they're here, we process them. They have no right to be a subversive moslem and remain free in the US.

99 posted on 12/09/2015 9:51:11 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz Threatens to Nuke ISIS Targets

Sounds like a plan to me. Go for it!

100 posted on 12/09/2015 11:16:15 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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