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Homeschooling Offers Hope
The New American ^ | Tuesday, 08 December 2015 | John Larabell

Posted on 12/10/2015 7:51:53 AM PST by Sopater

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Who is raising your children?

This article focuses more on the positive aspects of homeschooling and less on the negative ones of the alternatives.

It shows that as long as we are free to educate and raise our children at home, there is hope for this country.

1 posted on 12/10/2015 7:51:53 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Yeah, homeschooling is great.

But precollegiate schooling via the parents is terribly inefficient.

It ignores the simple economic principle of the division of labor and indicates a breakdown in social trust.

It’s too bad many of us have no other choice.

Welcome to the dark ages.


2 posted on 12/10/2015 8:05:23 AM PST by cornelis
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But precollegiate schooling via the parents is terribly inefficient.

Not in my experience.
3 posted on 12/10/2015 8:13:11 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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homeschoolers scored in the 89th percentile in reading and in the 84th in math, language, and social studies, with an average score of 86 percent.

This is pure hate! They are teaching homeschoolers to burn crosses and tie minorities to the back of their pickup trucks and drag them to death while singing about the greatness of Reagan! And these scores are the proof! (/NEA)

4 posted on 12/10/2015 8:14:06 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: cornelis
It’s too bad many of us have no other choice.

Often, but not always, when I hear that, it is more a matter of priority than of choice. That is quite often true of single parent families, but not of two parent families. For two parent families, it really comes down to whether it is of higher priority to have the additional income or to raise your children yourself with your own value system. We lived off of a $25/week grocery budget for several years while homeschooling because it was more important to us than having additional income at the expense of sending our children away for others to train.
5 posted on 12/10/2015 8:17:45 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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I am VERY VERY pro homeschooling.

But I have recently learned that there are limits. I am currently trying to help a homeschooling family where the prime motivation seems to be that the parent is too lazy to get out of bed in the morning and get the kids on the school bus.

I am VERY VERY much against government interference in people’s private lives. If I weren’t, I’d report this family to child protective services or something. But I expect that would just make the situation worse and allow the government to stick their nose into people’s personal business where it doesn’t belong. If anyone has any suggestions on what they would do to help these kids who are learning very little and ill-prepared for any sort of life outside their home, please post or FReepmail me.

The 17-year-old cannot add and subtract and has the math knowledge of a 3rd grader at best. As far as I can see, the parent and the oldest child are all about excuses and getting by with minimal work, staying up late and watching movies instead of getting a job or doing homework or anything productive. Not sure about the younger kids but this can’t be a good environment for them, either.


6 posted on 12/10/2015 8:17:55 AM PST by generally
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They are teaching homeschoolers to burn crosses and tie minorities to the back of their pickup trucks and drag them to death while singing about the greatness of Reagan! And these scores are the proof! (/NEA)

I guess we were following a different curriculum. ;-)
7 posted on 12/10/2015 8:22:36 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Most Americans are not master teachers in more than one or two subjects. A division of labor is the solution for limited resources.

The younger years are easier.


8 posted on 12/10/2015 8:34:24 AM PST by cornelis
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As sad as that situation is, it is really the responsibility of the parents to raise those children. Their children will suffer because of their neglect in educating them. Although I agree that laziness is not a reason to homeschool, I would expect that sending the children to gov’t school would not solve the problems that they have at home.


9 posted on 12/10/2015 8:34:51 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Most Americans are not master teachers in more than one or two subjects.

Are you implying that gov't school teachers are?
10 posted on 12/10/2015 8:35:50 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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I graduated public high school with kids who’d been public schooled for 13 years. More than a few of them couldn’t read the diplomas they received. Many of them didn’t know the simplest multiplication facts.

Get back to me on lazy homeschoolers when public schools are gaduating literate humans.


11 posted on 12/10/2015 8:38:48 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

gaduating = graduating.

Coffee quota incomplete.


12 posted on 12/10/2015 8:40:17 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: cornelis
The younger years are easier.

Yes, they are. And yes, the later years are harder, but that shouldn't cause one to turn away from their responsibility. Spend more time in the earlier years teaching children how to learn and how to study and how to ask questions, and then they will excel in the later years. Mrs. Sopater stayed home and educated our children through highschool and she has a GED and some college. My oldest just earned his B.S. in Electrical and Computer engineering with a 3.9 GPA.

I know it isn't necessarily the rule, but it is testimony that teaching children how to learn and how to educate themself is more important than simply teaching them the subject matter.
13 posted on 12/10/2015 8:40:21 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Consider this “innovative idea”. Consider ballet schools, music schools, math centers—a division of labor.


14 posted on 12/10/2015 8:47:06 AM PST by cornelis
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But precollegiate schooling via the parents is terribly inefficient.

It's a question of philosophy. In pursuit of the goal of maximum economic output for the society, it is "inefficient" for a parent to be the educator for his/her own children. The way of maximum efficiency should be for children to be reared from birth in large groups by workers at the lowest cost, while the biological progenitors take their highest-value role as producers. This is the Marxist model.

If the goal is to produce an 18- to 20-year-old person with such-and-such knowledge and skills, then institutional schooling also has the potential to be more "efficient," because those providing the schooling can be specialists who convey their knowledge to larger groups. This also allows the biological progenitors of the students to maximize their economic value as producers, since they are freed from the daily supervision of their offspring.

The view of the family in which the very fact of living and learning together at any age is in itself a value is very different from either of the previous philosophies.

15 posted on 12/10/2015 8:53:45 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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Home-school doesn’t always mean teach everything by yourself.

Home-school co-opts, dual credit classes at the junior college, online classes, paid classes that cater to homeschool students. Do you honestly think that in a group of millions of bright families that you are the first to consider that innovative idea?

It took a couple years of college classes before my kids realized that my wife and I were pretty good teachers. This was an unforeseen consequence of us taking good advantage of the external teaching available. If we knew a fantastic teacher that would do a better job than us in a subject, we would sign the kids up for that class. As a result, every “other” teacher they were exposed to were fantastic teachers. Their conclusion was that mom and dad were just average.

It was not until they had repeated exposure to a non-filtered set of teachers that they got the perspective to see how we really rated.

The key difference is that even when we didn’t teach it ourselves, we had complete control to pick the teacher, the curriculum and had accountability that if they were doing something we did not approve of then we had authority to pull the kids without having to fight endless levels of bureaucracy.


16 posted on 12/10/2015 9:01:32 AM PST by csivils
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Consider this “innovative idea”

Yes, they're called "homeschool co-ops" and "private tutors".
17 posted on 12/10/2015 9:07:13 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Like Marxism, the theory fails in reality.

* The high level of expertise simply is not needed to teach most classes.
* Institutional teachers are rarely as motivated to care for a child as their parent is
* When a child gets to the level where expert teachers make a difference, the homeschooling model allows the flexibility to pursue those experts where the institutional model is rigid and uses a one-size fits all approach.

One of my daughters was very attached to her mother. In a public school, that was a problem because in a room of 30 students, the teacher cannot give every student that kind of attention. The advice given by another homeschool mom was that it was a fantastic opportunity. Let the kid sit on your knee as long as she does educational activities. She will outgrow wanting to be right next to mom, but the education would benefit her an entire life time. It was great advice, and worked just as described.


18 posted on 12/10/2015 9:08:40 AM PST by csivils
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To: Sopater

It is amazing the level of ignorance displayed by many non-homeschoolers as they seek to enlighten others with their brilliance.


19 posted on 12/10/2015 9:09:51 AM PST by csivils
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To: Tax-chick

Oh, my. Learning together as a family is great and even greater through the division of labor.


20 posted on 12/10/2015 9:09:54 AM PST by cornelis
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