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To: Amntn

On an article that was the basis of an earlier thread, I read about some rule changes concerning the convention which were presented as being pro-establishment, but not enough rules were given to make things clear—and only by working through things in the real world will one see actual results.

26 states are early (before March 15) and only 25 states are winner-take all, with all of this later group except for S.C. being after March 15. To have one’s name placed in nomination, one needs a majority in eight state delegations, which means winning at least a third of the winner take all states OR making up where one falls short in the winner take all category by taking an absolute majority in one of the earlier proportional states.

To be assured of a win on the first ballot going in, one needs to be nominated (probably courtesy of the winner-take-all states) and have done well enough in the proportional states to be put over the top by the winner-take-all states.

What is not clear is what happens if either (a) no one has the minimum of eight states or (b) what happens to the delegates of those people who are not nominated.

At this point, I don’t see anyone other than Cruz and Trump picking up the eight state minimum, so I’d think that the high barrier to entry should back-fire against the establishment.


44 posted on 12/10/2015 1:43:00 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus

If no one meets the standard for a first ballot win, they start trying to change the delegates minds on whom to vote for.

They can buy votes, intimidate, or any other thing they can come up with.

They can try to make a deal with the candidate like with Reagan by insisting he name GHW his running mate.

At some point they can enter another name for consideration including someone who has not even run in the priamary (Mitt or Daniels).


102 posted on 12/10/2015 2:21:41 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Hieronymus
I started the chart below to keep a running total of accumulated delegates by state primary:

2016 Republican Primary dates and delegate counts

Date

State/

Calculated

Type

Cumulative Total

[110]

territory

delegates

[113]

1305 to Win

[111]

[112]

[b]

(includes bonus delegates)

[a]

February 1, 2016

Iowa

30

Closed caucus

30

February 9, 2016

New Hampshire

23

Modified primary

53

February 20, 2016

South Carolina

50

Open primary

103

February 23, 2016

Nevada

30

Closed caucus

133

March 1, 2016

Alabama

50

Open primary

183

Alaska

28

Closed caucus

211

Arkansas

40

Open primary

251

Georgia

76

Modified primary

327

Massachusetts

42

Modified primary

369

Minnesota

38

Open caucus

407

Oklahoma

43

Closed primary

450

Tennessee

58

Open primary

508

Texas

155

Open primary

663

Vermont

16

Open primary

679

Virginia

49

Open primary

728

Wyoming

29

Closed caucus

757

March 5, 2016

Maine

23

Closed caucus

780

Kansas

40

Closed caucus

820

Kentucky

45

Closed caucus

865

Louisiana

46

Closed primary

911

March 8, 2016

Hawaii

19

Closed caucus

930

Idaho

32

Closed primary

962

Mississippi

39

Open primary

1001

Michigan

59

Closed primary

1060

March 12, 2016

District of Columbia

19

Closed caucus

1079

Guam

9

Closed caucus

1088

March 13, 2016

Puerto Rico

23

Open primary

1111

March 15, 2016

Ohio

66

Modified primary

1177

Florida

99

Closed primary

1276

Illinois

69

Open primary

1345

Missouri

52

Modified caucus

1397

North Carolina

72

Modified primary

1469

March 22, 2016

Arizona

58

Closed primary

1527

Utah

40

Modified primary

1567

April 5, 2016

Wisconsin

42

Open primary

1609

April 19, 2016

New York

95

Closed primary

1704

April 26, 2016

Connecticut

28

Closed primary

1732

Delaware

16

Closed primary

1748

Maryland

38

Closed primary

1786

Pennsylvania

71

Closed primary

1857

Rhode Island

19

Modified primary

1876

May 3, 2016

Indiana

57

Open primary

1933

May 10, 2016

Nebraska

36

Semi-closed primary

1969

West Virginia

34

Modified primary

2003

May 17, 2016

Oregon

28

Closed primary

2031

May 24, 2016

Washington

44

Closed primary

2075

June 7, 2016

California

172

Closed primary

2247

Montana

27

Closed caucus

2274

New Jersey

51

Modified primary

2325

New Mexico

24

Closed primary

2349

South Dakota

29

Closed primary

2378

TBA

North Dakota

28

Closed caucus

TBA

Colorado

37

Closed caucus

TBA

American Samoa

9

Open caucus

TBA

Northern Marianas

9

Closed caucus

TBA

Virgin Islands

9

Closed caucus



==

It could all be over after the March 15 primaries.



112 posted on 12/10/2015 2:25:49 PM PST by TomGuy
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